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KN in NC's avatar

I understand the bafflement of the Israel hawks (Andrew and Bill) but I actually was relieved to hear Biden's position. We can be full-throated supporters of Israel's right to exist without giving them the weapons to attack indiscriminately the area of Gaza that they forced all the remaining residents into, with no way out. Call it genocide or not, they are now shooting fish in a barrel, and it's immoral even if it feels defensible. If Reagan can withhold arms to send a message, then so can (and should) Biden. Israel made it clear in their reaction to the initial holding of the bombs, that they don't need our stinkin' weapons anyway. And it's true; they are a rich country with plenty of resources, military and otherwise. We don't have to support the slaughter of innocents any more than we already have.

I have to think that many of these pro-Israel swing voters are, like me, at least a little uncomfortable with how Israel has prosecuted this war.

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I respect the Bulwark's pro-Israel stance, but I am beginning to come round to agreeing with the commenters who say it's going too far.

Most of us came to this website for reasons other than to take sides in the Middle East conflict. We were deeply concerned about the MAGA threat and celebrated the ability of people on the left and right to come together to fight for democracy.

I'm starting to feel that that valuable consensus is being squandered on a fight that (a) nobody can win that (b) is best fought elsewhere. You guys know damn well that half your audience disagrees on this extremely fraught topic. Your columns on it do nothing to empower critical thinking or collegiality -- all you do is score points for your side. And I doubt those scored points will win a single person over (though your insistent one-sidedness might reduce the Bulwark's credibility).

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It seems unlikely to me that Biden announced his move in the way he did by mistake. (That seems like the kind of mis-read that comes when you ass-u-me, despite all evidence to the contrary, that his age has made him feeble.) Speculation on that aside, I can only say THANK GOD HE DID and MORE OF THAT PLEASE. What's going on in Gaza may not be genocide{*}, but it's fucking horrible and inexcusable and it will be a stain on Israel's supporters (including me) forever.

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Something seems to be going on at the Bulwark. Being neither Miss Havisham nor Tante Milla, I'm not gonna go "waaaaaa I want it to be like it was before." Things do change. I just hope you can bring the same creativity and vision to managing change as you did to creating this thing in the first place. The resource you offer here is rare and special, but it is not the only option, and a captive audience we are not.

You have got a whole lot of formerly ironclad left/center-left people admiring the hell out of you and considering ideas they used to reject out of hand. If that matters to you, then don't kill the goose that laid that egg.

It's presumptuous of me to speculate that y'all are going through some stuff, but speculate I do, and I hope you work it out.

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{*} a word that, from day 2, seems to have triggered more pointless debate than positive change

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