pregnancy is incredibly hard on the body. The US already has abysmal ratings re maternal mortality and that is going to get worse with the overturning of Roe. The point that most miss is the loss of bodily autonomy for 10 months. A pregnant woman can't eat what she wants, drink what she wants, etc. And the odds that a woman is going …
pregnancy is incredibly hard on the body. The US already has abysmal ratings re maternal mortality and that is going to get worse with the overturning of Roe. The point that most miss is the loss of bodily autonomy for 10 months. A pregnant woman can't eat what she wants, drink what she wants, etc. And the odds that a woman is going to give up the baby for adoption after suffering that are really low.
As to other rights not going away, this is a pretty bad take. Things like gay marriage, contraceptive use, interracial marriage are all based on privacy rights, same as Roe. And Alito stress that Roe is an unenumerated right, same as gay marriage, use of contraceptives, interracial marriage. They are all going to be challenged.
Finally, states are already trying to out-do each other for ridiculous laws. No travelling out of state without a negative pregnancy test! Death penalty to women who get an abortion! Life in prison for doctors upholding their oath to do no harm! Are in 1952 or 2022?
Agree completely. The legal analysis made by Alito were it to stand and become law could easily be used to overturn the other cases involving the right to privacy because same sex marriage, interracial marriage, anti-sodomy laws etc are not “deeply rooted” in our history—possibly even Griswold re: contraception.
Agree. Also McConnell just said that he's willing to entertain a federal abortion ban, so seems like Heer is right on that. I also don't know how you can read that draft opinion and not come away from it with the idea that the Court doesn't strongly believe in privacy or individual liberty. The idea that Obergefell is safe seems bizarre. I know we were told by a lot of moderates and conservatives that we shouldn't worry our little heads about Roe and that suggesting it would be overruled was fearmongering and hysteria. ...
pregnancy is incredibly hard on the body. The US already has abysmal ratings re maternal mortality and that is going to get worse with the overturning of Roe. The point that most miss is the loss of bodily autonomy for 10 months. A pregnant woman can't eat what she wants, drink what she wants, etc. And the odds that a woman is going to give up the baby for adoption after suffering that are really low.
As to other rights not going away, this is a pretty bad take. Things like gay marriage, contraceptive use, interracial marriage are all based on privacy rights, same as Roe. And Alito stress that Roe is an unenumerated right, same as gay marriage, use of contraceptives, interracial marriage. They are all going to be challenged.
Finally, states are already trying to out-do each other for ridiculous laws. No travelling out of state without a negative pregnancy test! Death penalty to women who get an abortion! Life in prison for doctors upholding their oath to do no harm! Are in 1952 or 2022?
Agree completely. The legal analysis made by Alito were it to stand and become law could easily be used to overturn the other cases involving the right to privacy because same sex marriage, interracial marriage, anti-sodomy laws etc are not “deeply rooted” in our history—possibly even Griswold re: contraception.
Agree. Also McConnell just said that he's willing to entertain a federal abortion ban, so seems like Heer is right on that. I also don't know how you can read that draft opinion and not come away from it with the idea that the Court doesn't strongly believe in privacy or individual liberty. The idea that Obergefell is safe seems bizarre. I know we were told by a lot of moderates and conservatives that we shouldn't worry our little heads about Roe and that suggesting it would be overruled was fearmongering and hysteria. ...
Right. Cause these folks are such fans of stare decisis when an opinion has grey hair.
They also said that about the attempted coup on 1/6, but hey let’s be stupid and believe them now.
I mean, Lucy might hold the football still this time, right?
Or maybe 1452?
Actually, in Europe, in 1452, abortion was legal up until the quickening, around 15 weeks and in the US in many states until the 1860s.
Good point. Maybe US circa 1952 is a better date.