Question: when people say “I wish the hush money case didn’t go first” can you ask “what if I told you it was the only criminal prosecution to happen before the election?” It’s not that I want a gotcha question at all it’s that it’s kind of obvious that everyone on the pro democracy side would want j6 to go firs…
Question: when people say “I wish the hush money case didn’t go first” can you ask “what if I told you it was the only criminal prosecution to happen before the election?” It’s not that I want a gotcha question at all it’s that it’s kind of obvious that everyone on the pro democracy side would want j6 to go first or maybe the classification case but we live in this world and that isn’t our choices anymore. I’m actually more interested (maybe others aren’t so ignore me) if it was this or nothing what would they say? It’s curious to me because I think I tend to land where you are that it’s a net negative for trump, but to be honest, I’m actually not confident in that position.
With respect to kids and grievance, hasn’t this been true forever? Isn’t the biggest difference the internet and social media (aka media environment…maybe the nationalization of news). I remember the culture wars of the 80s and 90s. Do you remember how parents hated rap or video games or punk music? I remember my dad saying to me how his father was so pissed at my dad for liking the Beatles in the 60s. I remember the debates on illegal immigration and guns (cali born and raised). It’s no different now than it was then (arguments that is). It’s just ramped up to a 1000. To put this in perspective I grew up in San Jose, an hour from San Francisco and Oakland. We were huge niners, giants and warriors fans (lots of brothers) so we would go to games all the time. I never once heard anything on the news or from my parents about drugs in sf or gangs in Oakland. Now I watch national news about sf (where I live) and there are national stories on our school boards. It’s crazy. I’m like “why does anyone in Indiana care about what my children are learning in sf.”
The biggest change on a national issue that u saw growing up was immigration. It was a huge issue here in the 80s but then California’s kind of…moved on? We didn’t care much by the late 90s. Then I went to college and all my friend’s parents were so concerned about immigration. They were from Wisconsin, Oregon, washington st, Tennessee, North Carolina, etc. I always asked my buddies “so like how diverse was your school? Why do your parents care so much about illegal immigration?” They were, I’m not joking, going to schools that were 90% white. My school was majority minority and I couldn’t care less. I just never understood how people in Maine or Wisconsin who never met a Mexican cared so much about illegal immigration. I feel like it’s the same today but on like 20 issues.
Re: your point about student youthful grievance of the past... I attended a university near an Army base toward the end of the Vietnam War and witnessed a lot of atrocious behavior targeting anyone in uniform who showed up in a bar, restaurant or grocery store near the campus. I can't fault protests against the war itself and the decision-makers waging it, but the kids who were drafted to fight in it did not deserve the vitriol coming from those who were only able to avoid it thanks to student deferments or being female (or bone spurs etc.) So yes, youth and tribal grievance has been going on forever, it's just amplified now.
Agreed. Not saying the kids are right (often they are…to a point but often make things worse given their behavior).
The media environment is just so toxic though. The amount of coverage on Columbia and a 1000 protesters (I think it’s closer to a 100) seems ridiculous.
Tim, question and comment.
Question: when people say “I wish the hush money case didn’t go first” can you ask “what if I told you it was the only criminal prosecution to happen before the election?” It’s not that I want a gotcha question at all it’s that it’s kind of obvious that everyone on the pro democracy side would want j6 to go first or maybe the classification case but we live in this world and that isn’t our choices anymore. I’m actually more interested (maybe others aren’t so ignore me) if it was this or nothing what would they say? It’s curious to me because I think I tend to land where you are that it’s a net negative for trump, but to be honest, I’m actually not confident in that position.
With respect to kids and grievance, hasn’t this been true forever? Isn’t the biggest difference the internet and social media (aka media environment…maybe the nationalization of news). I remember the culture wars of the 80s and 90s. Do you remember how parents hated rap or video games or punk music? I remember my dad saying to me how his father was so pissed at my dad for liking the Beatles in the 60s. I remember the debates on illegal immigration and guns (cali born and raised). It’s no different now than it was then (arguments that is). It’s just ramped up to a 1000. To put this in perspective I grew up in San Jose, an hour from San Francisco and Oakland. We were huge niners, giants and warriors fans (lots of brothers) so we would go to games all the time. I never once heard anything on the news or from my parents about drugs in sf or gangs in Oakland. Now I watch national news about sf (where I live) and there are national stories on our school boards. It’s crazy. I’m like “why does anyone in Indiana care about what my children are learning in sf.”
The biggest change on a national issue that u saw growing up was immigration. It was a huge issue here in the 80s but then California’s kind of…moved on? We didn’t care much by the late 90s. Then I went to college and all my friend’s parents were so concerned about immigration. They were from Wisconsin, Oregon, washington st, Tennessee, North Carolina, etc. I always asked my buddies “so like how diverse was your school? Why do your parents care so much about illegal immigration?” They were, I’m not joking, going to schools that were 90% white. My school was majority minority and I couldn’t care less. I just never understood how people in Maine or Wisconsin who never met a Mexican cared so much about illegal immigration. I feel like it’s the same today but on like 20 issues.
Re: your point about student youthful grievance of the past... I attended a university near an Army base toward the end of the Vietnam War and witnessed a lot of atrocious behavior targeting anyone in uniform who showed up in a bar, restaurant or grocery store near the campus. I can't fault protests against the war itself and the decision-makers waging it, but the kids who were drafted to fight in it did not deserve the vitriol coming from those who were only able to avoid it thanks to student deferments or being female (or bone spurs etc.) So yes, youth and tribal grievance has been going on forever, it's just amplified now.
Agreed. Not saying the kids are right (often they are…to a point but often make things worse given their behavior).
The media environment is just so toxic though. The amount of coverage on Columbia and a 1000 protesters (I think it’s closer to a 100) seems ridiculous.