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These GOP denials make me think back to Sgt. Schultz on “Hogans Heroes”, “I know nothing…”, “I see nothing..”.

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Carol Janes's avatar

REAL Nazi's supported Hitler until the end and then after.....remember they risked their own lives shooting Jews until GErmany was overrun by the Allies.....today's MAGA remind me very much of those Nazi's...they will stick w Trump even as he bankrupts the country, they don't have enough food to eat or medical care and even if they find out FOR SURE that he had a role in the exploitation of little girls or even took part in it....they are ARyan to the core...

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Owlette's avatar

Republicans have followed him to a very dark place and can't find their way out without him - so it's better to live mentally in some kind of parallel universe.

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David Court's avatar

Do you mean to imply that, with him leading them, they could? If so, to me the idea of that happening is the definition of a fat chance.

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Owlette's avatar

Interesting question, isn't it?

I've sometimes wondered if Trump might have created a space around him and his base, full of grievance and hate, that he can't escape himself without losing his followers. Him being a figurehead rather than a real leader.

If he changed course, the narrative - would the majority still follow him?

I doubt it to be honest.

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David Court's avatar

Not sure I can agree that he created a space that was then miraculously filled with grievance and hate so that he is "only" a figurehead. He has been the one spouting out all of the anti- this group, anti- that group stuff (to use a neutral "s" word), it did not come into the "space" on its own. He needs that, feeds on it, because it makes him feel superior and "The Chosen One", just as any narcissist would want.

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David Court's avatar

You mean like the followers of a magalomanical fascist? (Typo intentional.)

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David White's avatar

I had the exact same thought.

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David Court's avatar

First name affinity?

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Andrew's avatar

"Trump doesn’t even know how to read" made me laugh out loud.

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Peter Brownlee's avatar

Or count? Colors??

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David White's avatar

Truth

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Andrew Galan's avatar

The AI coding study is a reflection of something most people don't know (because AI boosters don't want them to know): AI doesn't actually know anything. It can't think, it can't do research, it can't learn skills. The programs simply do not work like that.

Here's what it can do: pattern recognition. No, really, that's basically all an LLM is, a hyper-sophisticated pattern recognition engine that then uses the patterns it pulls out of its training data to reconstruct what it calculates (not thinks, it's just math, the LLM has no way of knowing what any of it actually signifies) the end user expects in response to a given prompt.

Using AI as a tool to code only even kind of works because most programming languages operate off a very formal syntax that will only "work" when formatted correctly. That is, ultimately, a set of patterns. LLMs have been trained on every scrap of data their trainers could hoover up, which just so happens to include pretty much every line of code for every piece of open source (and closed source that has been leaked or posted in whole or in part) software since the dawn of the internet. That's a lot of data to extract a lot of patterns from, so when you ask AI to code, it will spit out code that looks at first glance like it should work, and some of the time it does!

Now, the real problem comes when you are a software engineer who is working on a complex task and not just trying to code a python script to do a single thing or what have you. Code is interdependent, it constantly references itself, changing a variable in one location will cause something in another to spontaneously break because it depended on the old variable, and that's one of the simpler such issues to debug. Now imagine injecting code that's been written by a machine that has no way to reference any of the other code that is relevant, or any of the dozens of other things that an actual human programmer knows to keep in mind. It's going to make a lot of mistakes. At that point the human prompting it has two choices: commit the code and probably break a bunch of stuff and spend time un-breaking it manually later; or manually review everything the AI spits out, checking it against your own knowledge to ensure it will work, and fixing it before sending.

This winds up, more often than not, taking more time than just writing the code to do the task yourself.

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LHS's avatar

I just this morning had a conversation with someone who was explaining to me that a certain AI program his company sells is so lousy that at the end of every month, "we have to do a lot of manual mistake-fixing". Great, huh?

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David White's avatar

My late brother in law, who was a systems analyst in the dark ages and worked in Fortran and other languages, looked at me quizzically when I asked him about AI.

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TJB's avatar

Tried to explain this concept to my brother-in-law, who thinks AI is the best thing ever, and he told me I was just spouting elitist propaganda. And yet, he gets all his stock and crypto trading advice from ChatGPT because "it knows things no one else knows!". I love my sister, but I really hope her husband loses all this money (which is her money, because he can't keep a job, lies on his resumes, and his only talent is talk).

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David Court's avatar

Thank you for taking the time to try to help a non-computer Boomer junkie get a grasp of AI and its shortcomings, assuming, of course, that you are a real person providing real thought and analysis, and not some AI generated word salad. Based upon the effort made, down to a worded profile, I am going to take a stab at "real" versus "AI".😉🥂

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Kotzsu's avatar

It is clearly his signature. But this isn't the first time the Trumpists on the Hill have literally denied truth that is before their very eyes

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LHS's avatar

Andrew Eggers put it perfectly in this morning's Bulwark Morning Shots: "The whole miserable decade of “alternative facts,” of witch hunts, of flooding the zone with shit—it all amounted to a long, powerful education for his base. It’s a training in a certain kind of zen meditation, in which stories damaging to Trump pass from the eyes and ears directly out of the body without ever intersecting the brain."

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Karen Delaney's avatar

NY Times has a comparison with his signature (first name only) from the same time period. Won’t stop the denials unfortunately!

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

When was there a time when Trumpists did not deny something, anything and agreed it was true?

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David Court's avatar

They are just following the, as-yet to be released, latest Executive Order: If I say it, it is true.

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KO in LA's avatar

Huh. Maybe QAnon was on to something when they claimed a cabal of elites at the highest levels was enabling pedophiles.

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Different drummer's avatar

That's what Sarah said on TSP that just came out a little while ago.

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TJB's avatar

Honestly might be part of the reason Trump got into politics (if I have my timelines right, which is iffy, because this has all felt so liminal for at *leas* the past 10 years). QAnon comes out with this theory, that is true, and the people it implicated decide "We need to get on top of that NOW." So they send in the best spinner and grifter they have to say "It isn't *us* this theory is about, it's *them*." And so, it was "them", the "Deep State", the "Evil Democrats", instead of the actual perpetrators.

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Rich Delmar's avatar

Planting the page in the book was done by the same masterminds who planted Obama’s birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser back in August 1961.

Clever rascals.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

Of course. They use a Time Machine to make that happen. What is next from these devious devils?

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Donald Cea's avatar

Your comment is comedy gold !!!

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Jeanne Golliher's avatar

Your comment could provide inspiration for an Onion or Andy Borowitz essay....

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

“I asked if he thought the signature had been forged. “Looks like it,” he said. “Also, could you imagine President Trump drawing a drawing like that? That’s not his style.” Moreno then popped into the elevator. I didn’t get to ask whether he thinks the president might have rendered a woman’s figure differently.”

I didn’t realize we pay these clowns $200k a year so they can parrot Dear Leader’s talking points.

It’s not his signature. He doesn’t draw pictures. Does that signature even look like it says Donald J Trump? Guilty as charged!

That said, Is anyone in this party even capable of an original thought? It’s a rhetorical question, no need to answer!….:)

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David Court's avatar

Capable, probably, "What tie should I wear today? What shirt? Do I want Coffee or Tea?, etc." What they are incapable of is speaking an original thought without having it blessed by the Felon.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Exactly…:)

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Carol Janes's avatar

I'm from Ohio and that's my Senator...can't take the MORON out of Moreno...still cannot believe he defeated SHerrod BRown...Moreon is VILE...sending him an email tonight...damned pedo supporting idiot

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Rose Weiss's avatar

I don't live in Ohio, but I've followed Brown with admiration for years and was shocked at his loss. I'm hoping the next election will reinstate him.

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Carol Janes's avatar

He is a good man and as far as I know he is honest and NOT a billionaire or a pedo. When he was in office he worked for the people of Ohio as well as the nation and people in this state KNOW that...will never understand how this SLIME was elected. But hopefully Brown will defeat Husted who is also corrupt. Talk to me some time about my teacher's pension and how the state took control away from us in the middle of the night..that was not Husted's doing but he is part of the First Energy scandal along w the governor..wish there would be more investigation of Ohio politics..we are right there w Florida and Texas

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Jeanne Golliher's avatar

Carol, I am in Cincinnati and I feel your pain. Sherrod Brown is an honest man, kind, sincere and hard-working, most definitely not a billionaire or a pedo. My deep disappointment in our fellow Ohio voters stings as painfully today as it did last November. That they could look at Moreno's documented lack of character and say "yeah I'll take that" over a proven, dedicated public servant was a gut punch, equally painful as the despicable presidential choice. I will work hard to get Sherrod back in the Senate and trust that you will as well.

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Carol Janes's avatar

I will!!!

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DK's avatar

""To prevent them from having an easy out—“I haven’t seen it yet”—I printed the drawing and showed it to them"" - boom! brilliant!! :-)

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David Court's avatar

Unfortunately, that just shows that looking and seeing are two different eye-ball functions. These Kool-Aid drinkers see nothing but what they are told to see and disregard the rest, to butcher the Boxer in a paraphrase.

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Christine's avatar

Trump has signed copious amounts of contracts, executive ordersf, checks, etc.

Do we really need to get a handwriting expert to tell us that's his signature?

Well, he better be a Republican, because otherwise Trump will claim it's woke.

Donald has created many other drawings. Maybe the dementia has set in and he needs to be reminded.

For Trump, memory is very selective.

All these Republican sycophants are taught very early to "never contradict fearless leader".

Me thinks they doth protest too much.

And finally, whatever comes out of the White House is usually a lie.

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David Court's avatar

The easy way to tell if what the Felon says is a lie is to note carefully if his lips move.

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James F.'s avatar

Martyn’s AI prediction is one I thought was really good and I’ve been waiting to see come to fruition, because AI has seemed wildly overhyped and it is propping up a lot of the stock market. If the bubble pops at a time when the economy is already looking rough…watch out.

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David White's avatar

Its got the smell of the first tech meltdown.

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Ronald Harvey's avatar

Joe, you are doing the Lord's work. Thank you, and keep it up!

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SuBe's avatar

Let's consider something besides whether DJT actually wrote that vile letter/drawing. (We all know he did, but it's a pointless argument and distraction.) Instead, let's send our love and support to those victims and do right by them. The pictures and letters I have seen so far make me want to vomit. What happened to those girls is unforgivable. The names of everyone who participated and enabled really needs to be exposed and they can be responsible for the repercussions in their own lives. I love it that those perps, perp adjacents, and perp apologists are scared and freaking out about being exposed. This treatment of women and girls is a feature of people in power, not a one-off. Karma is a bitch.

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LHS's avatar

Yes, seeing more of the birthday "cards" has sickened me. These people KNEW and thought it was great, funny, etc.

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Sheri Smith's avatar

So creepy. What a bunch of lechers.

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Oldandintheway's avatar

I assume that none of the elected Republicans, besides the three women present, heard anything about the brave women who spoke in from of the Capitol, begging for openness and justice years after being raped as children. It’s OK for the Republicans to be the party that protects pedophiles. Have they been paid off in crypto? Paid by Putin? Or has Trump done what Epstein did to the young women and their families — threatened to ruin their lives or actually kill them? Do these people have daughters? Perhaps they would be thrilled if Trump found them attractive enough?

This is really, really sick. How can America present itself as a country with any ethics or morals? Why would anyone trust the US about anything? Not just greedy and racist, but scum and debauchery.

AND NOW: We are treating addictions with stealth bombers, and men in black can legal arrest anyone who orders a taco.

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tupper's avatar

You had me at "divagated"

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STEVE H's avatar

Of course it's not Trump's signature, just like it wasn't, as Trump initially claimed back in 2016, his voice on the Access Hollywood Tape. How dumb or short-memoried does Trump think the rest of us are?

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E. A. Bare's avatar

As far as the republicans are concerned as dumb as he wants them to be.

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TJB's avatar

He's hoping quite dumb. Remember, he "loves the uneducated". And active denial doesn't require a short memory — I think actually the opposite, because they have to keep track of the many denials and contradictions and "walk backs" over the years.

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