IтАЩm baffled by the polling just reported. ItтАЩs the exact opposite of polls that came out last week. When you see the opposite results from two polls just days apart, you gotta wonder about their accuracy and validity.
May I respectfully ask a question? Who are the people being polled and by what method? Text, email, calls to cellphones? Let's be reminded this is 2024. Unlike the "olden" days, land lines are no longer the preferred method of contact; and I don't know about you, but I do not respond to the gazillion political texts/calls I get from random numbers. We've learned polls can definitely be wrong. Let's not get sucked into the polling black hole.
Kim, it's so hard constantly being bombarded by the negative. It's time to be the grownups in the room, sweep away the bogeyman, and accentuate the differences between 2016-2020 and 2020-2024. There are so many positives in the latter. I'm proud to go with Joe!
Yeah, I know. And so should NBC. But what purpose do these polls serve? For one thing, itтАЩs an easy headline. Not news, really, but poll results passing themselves as news. And maybe they help stimulate campaign. Gosh, can you imagine a corporate media outlet trying to promote stories that are profitable?
IтАЩve seen that. Maybe we are doomed to a dictatorship. Or maybe the polls continue to suffer the same flawтАж basically an extremely narrow sample of people who answer unknown callers. Either way, I have just sent another donation to the Biden campaign.
You are right. There is absolutely no comparison between the American economy in 1979-1980 and now. I lived through it. The economy was disastrous, the inflation highest in years, compared today to a strong economy with lowered inflation and low unemployment. Biden might not get credit for it yet and may not before the election. In 1980, Reagan was a breath of fresh air, elderly but strong, and considered the hope for economic and political change. Instead, we've already seen that Trump is a pathetic complainer and victim, whom so many Americans hate, with his constant lies, breaking of laws, and now extreme legal jeopardy. Not only that but polls today are seriously flawed. Who answers phone calls at their home now? The polls have been questionable for the last election cycles and completely underestimate those who don't ever get polled, like most young voters.
This is exactly right. Plus the Iranian hostage thing was in no way comparable to BidenтАЩs situation with the Israelis and the Houthis. BidenтАЩs responses have been measured, not impotent. HeтАЩs seen it all before. IтАЩd rather have him in charge now than somebody who could easily be baited.
And he didnтАЩt have to deal with a congress where one party consisted largely of incompetent or self-serving clowns who were more interested in getting re-elected, or getting exposure for a future board position or hosting gig instead of things like oh I donтАЩt known GOVERNING!
yep. Inflation in 1980 was over 14% and when we bought a house in 1984 the mortgage interest was also over 14%. We felt RELIEVED when we could refi at 8%--such a bargain.
I strongly disagree with ayers comparison of Carter and Biden.
First, the carter economy was no where close to as strong as the Biden economy.
And second, what beat Carter is the country was ready for a turn to the right with Reagan. Trump is no Reagan.
Now, is Biden going to win? I have no idea.
But is he sure to lose as ayers suggests? No way.
Third, Carter had a truly credible primary opponent in Kennedy, not the flakes Biden is looking at.
Assuming that Whit Ayers is going to say anything enlightening about any D President is the first mistake.
IтАЩm baffled by the polling just reported. ItтАЩs the exact opposite of polls that came out last week. When you see the opposite results from two polls just days apart, you gotta wonder about their accuracy and validity.
May I respectfully ask a question? Who are the people being polled and by what method? Text, email, calls to cellphones? Let's be reminded this is 2024. Unlike the "olden" days, land lines are no longer the preferred method of contact; and I don't know about you, but I do not respond to the gazillion political texts/calls I get from random numbers. We've learned polls can definitely be wrong. Let's not get sucked into the polling black hole.
Pam, you are at the heart of the matter. I get a gazillion texts and calls from тАЬunknownтАЩ sources. I ignore and block them.
And youтАЩre right. Polling has not proven itself to be particularly reliable over the past 8 years.
Kim, it's so hard constantly being bombarded by the negative. It's time to be the grownups in the room, sweep away the bogeyman, and accentuate the differences between 2016-2020 and 2020-2024. There are so many positives in the latter. I'm proud to go with Joe!
Agree totally!
Sarah Longwell seems to say frequently that we should ignore polling this far out. And she should know.
Yeah, I know. And so should NBC. But what purpose do these polls serve? For one thing, itтАЩs an easy headline. Not news, really, but poll results passing themselves as news. And maybe they help stimulate campaign. Gosh, can you imagine a corporate media outlet trying to promote stories that are profitable?
Quinnipiac is the outlier. Virtually every other poll has Trump ahead.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
IтАЩve seen that. Maybe we are doomed to a dictatorship. Or maybe the polls continue to suffer the same flawтАж basically an extremely narrow sample of people who answer unknown callers. Either way, I have just sent another donation to the Biden campaign.
The one thing I took from the Quinnipiac poll was the data on the growing gender gap. That is not good news for Trump.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4440504-2024-election-biden-leads-trump-growing-gender-gap-quinnipiac-poll/
You are right. There is absolutely no comparison between the American economy in 1979-1980 and now. I lived through it. The economy was disastrous, the inflation highest in years, compared today to a strong economy with lowered inflation and low unemployment. Biden might not get credit for it yet and may not before the election. In 1980, Reagan was a breath of fresh air, elderly but strong, and considered the hope for economic and political change. Instead, we've already seen that Trump is a pathetic complainer and victim, whom so many Americans hate, with his constant lies, breaking of laws, and now extreme legal jeopardy. Not only that but polls today are seriously flawed. Who answers phone calls at their home now? The polls have been questionable for the last election cycles and completely underestimate those who don't ever get polled, like most young voters.
This is exactly right. Plus the Iranian hostage thing was in no way comparable to BidenтАЩs situation with the Israelis and the Houthis. BidenтАЩs responses have been measured, not impotent. HeтАЩs seen it all before. IтАЩd rather have him in charge now than somebody who could easily be baited.
And he didnтАЩt have to deal with a congress where one party consisted largely of incompetent or self-serving clowns who were more interested in getting re-elected, or getting exposure for a future board position or hosting gig instead of things like oh I donтАЩt known GOVERNING!
BaitedтАжor bought. The only question will be who ends up owning Trump. Xi, Putin and the Saudis will be in a bidding war.
Carter also inherited his economic mess from Nixon/Ford.
yep. Inflation in 1980 was over 14% and when we bought a house in 1984 the mortgage interest was also over 14%. We felt RELIEVED when we could refi at 8%--such a bargain.