Jim, Thanks for the effort in relating this story to us. I don't know much but I do know this, six of these creatures on the Supreme Court are wolves in sheep's clothing.
George Conway is always right! Who is this Melissa Murray person? Good grief, all the eye-rolling and pointing to herself while mouthing “I’m right”. How rude and obnoxious. I’m an attorney and I spent a few hours researching this issue and George is 100% correct. The main reason that Barrett gave the 30 day delay is for the the plaintiffs to file a class action lawsuit, which is the appropriate method for getting a nationwide injunction here. Barrett correctly enunciated the rule that if an individual plaintiff can get “complete relief” from getting only an individual remedy, then a “universal injunction” (the correct terminology) is not permitted and the district court can’t issue one (or if it does, it gets overruled as it did here).
Furthermore, it’s just total baloney that there are no individual persons available to bring the necessary class action lawsuit since CASA and the states can’t do it (only individual people can do this, not organizations or states). There are hundreds,if not thousands of people available to be the named plaintiffs, and you need maybe as few as only one of them to be named (although you usually get 3 or 4 in most cases). And to say “they don’t have the means to do this”, which means is $$, well that’s also ridiculous because either the ACLU or Democracy Forward, or some immigration law firm is going to to come forward and do it pro bono, ie, free.
In fact, NPR reported on Saturday 6/29/25 that in less than 2 hours after the USSC decision was rendered, the first class action lawsuit had already been filed. There will be more. One of them will stick and it will get a universal injunction issued within days, if not hours. That will be upheld on appeal, the USSC will deny certiorari, and the case will proceed to a trial on the merits. The plaintiffs will win, and then that will go up on appeal. In due course the USSC will rule in favor of the plaintiffs and against Trump. Both the Constitution and the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure will be upheld.
George Conway is always right. Everyone else is hyperbolic and hysterical (not in a funny way).
The Conservative justices are just originalists. This means that they are so original, they’re coming up with their own original laws. Why is everyone so confused and upset about this my god. 😜
Jim, I would love to see an Ohio politics-focused podcast with you and DJ. The fuckery the Ohio GOP is on needs to be as widely blasted as possible so maybe they'll finally crawl back into their sewers so normal people can govern instead
Niven, the University of Cincinnati professor, told me that, according to one study, the laws being passed by Ohio’s statehouse place it to the right of the deeply conservative legislature in South Carolina. How did this happen, given that most Ohio voters are not ultra-conservatives? “It’s all about gerrymandering,” Niven told me. The legislative-district maps in Ohio have been deliberately drawn so that many Republicans effectively cannot lose, all but insuring that the Party has a veto-proof super-majority. As a result, the only contests most Republican incumbents need worry about are the primaries—and, because hard-core partisans dominate the vote in those contests, the sole threat most Republican incumbents face is the possibility of being outflanked by a rival even farther to the right. The national press has devoted considerable attention to the gerrymandering of congressional districts, but state legislative districts have received much less scrutiny, even though they are every bit as skewed, and in some states far more so. “Ohio is about the second most gerrymandered statehouse in the country,” Niven told me.
The Vivek article is a capsule for the shifting grounds going on within both parties and voters. He must be calculating that wearing the GOP jersey will not alienate more anti abortion voters than what he might gain pulling in moderate leaning tech and professionals within the south Asian community.
It’s obvious if it wasn’t before that the six person unelected junta for life does not give a rip about the constitution but only helping Trump consolidate power and go unchecked. But in lawlessness is opportunity. They are setting precedent they have to live with. All things change and change will come and now they won’t have rules and rulings to hide behind.
They will rejigger the board every time they don't get their petulant way. John Robert's is a worse justice than Taney. Trump v United States was an enabling act.
If they felt bound by precedent you might have a point, but they don’t. If and when there is another Democrat in power they will certainly find justifications for denying them the powers they are now granting to Trump. They question them becomes will the Democrat play their game or take the powers they gave the executive branch and run with it.
The SCOTUS broke me this week. I guess it is fitting when it happened on the one-year anniversary of the infamous “debate” that sealed our fate. Too bad I rarely drink or have a gummy.
Read my comment here on what George Conway said on MSNBC when he did a great put down on Melissa Murray, who is an idiot, and also rude. Watch the video. George is great. You’ll feel better after.
Jim? I want to thank you for turning me on to The Rooster a few years ago. I don’t live in Ohio, but you guys have enough fuckery going on in your state house to keep even the most casual political observer gobsmacked. And DJ covers it all with his *sewer blog* humor and it’s fantastic! Cheers!
Jim, Thanks for the effort in relating this story to us. I don't know much but I do know this, six of these creatures on the Supreme Court are wolves in sheep's clothing.
George Conway is always right! Who is this Melissa Murray person? Good grief, all the eye-rolling and pointing to herself while mouthing “I’m right”. How rude and obnoxious. I’m an attorney and I spent a few hours researching this issue and George is 100% correct. The main reason that Barrett gave the 30 day delay is for the the plaintiffs to file a class action lawsuit, which is the appropriate method for getting a nationwide injunction here. Barrett correctly enunciated the rule that if an individual plaintiff can get “complete relief” from getting only an individual remedy, then a “universal injunction” (the correct terminology) is not permitted and the district court can’t issue one (or if it does, it gets overruled as it did here).
Furthermore, it’s just total baloney that there are no individual persons available to bring the necessary class action lawsuit since CASA and the states can’t do it (only individual people can do this, not organizations or states). There are hundreds,if not thousands of people available to be the named plaintiffs, and you need maybe as few as only one of them to be named (although you usually get 3 or 4 in most cases). And to say “they don’t have the means to do this”, which means is $$, well that’s also ridiculous because either the ACLU or Democracy Forward, or some immigration law firm is going to to come forward and do it pro bono, ie, free.
In fact, NPR reported on Saturday 6/29/25 that in less than 2 hours after the USSC decision was rendered, the first class action lawsuit had already been filed. There will be more. One of them will stick and it will get a universal injunction issued within days, if not hours. That will be upheld on appeal, the USSC will deny certiorari, and the case will proceed to a trial on the merits. The plaintiffs will win, and then that will go up on appeal. In due course the USSC will rule in favor of the plaintiffs and against Trump. Both the Constitution and the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure will be upheld.
George Conway is always right. Everyone else is hyperbolic and hysterical (not in a funny way).
Watch the Senate deliberations: https://www.c-span.org/congress/?chamber=senate
The Conservative justices are just originalists. This means that they are so original, they’re coming up with their own original laws. Why is everyone so confused and upset about this my god. 😜
Jim, I would love to see an Ohio politics-focused podcast with you and DJ. The fuckery the Ohio GOP is on needs to be as widely blasted as possible so maybe they'll finally crawl back into their sewers so normal people can govern instead
Despite OH being more or less centrist, gerrymandering allows its Republican politicians to compete to see who can be more reactionary. 1. https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/politics-and-more/jane-mayer-on-ohios-lurch-to-the-right; 2. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/state-legislatures-are-torching-democracy:
Niven, the University of Cincinnati professor, told me that, according to one study, the laws being passed by Ohio’s statehouse place it to the right of the deeply conservative legislature in South Carolina. How did this happen, given that most Ohio voters are not ultra-conservatives? “It’s all about gerrymandering,” Niven told me. The legislative-district maps in Ohio have been deliberately drawn so that many Republicans effectively cannot lose, all but insuring that the Party has a veto-proof super-majority. As a result, the only contests most Republican incumbents need worry about are the primaries—and, because hard-core partisans dominate the vote in those contests, the sole threat most Republican incumbents face is the possibility of being outflanked by a rival even farther to the right. The national press has devoted considerable attention to the gerrymandering of congressional districts, but state legislative districts have received much less scrutiny, even though they are every bit as skewed, and in some states far more so. “Ohio is about the second most gerrymandered statehouse in the country,” Niven told me.
John Robert's stays up at all hours of the day and night just thinking "How do I give Trump more powers?"
The Vivek article is a capsule for the shifting grounds going on within both parties and voters. He must be calculating that wearing the GOP jersey will not alienate more anti abortion voters than what he might gain pulling in moderate leaning tech and professionals within the south Asian community.
It’s obvious if it wasn’t before that the six person unelected junta for life does not give a rip about the constitution but only helping Trump consolidate power and go unchecked. But in lawlessness is opportunity. They are setting precedent they have to live with. All things change and change will come and now they won’t have rules and rulings to hide behind.
They will rejigger the board every time they don't get their petulant way. John Robert's is a worse justice than Taney. Trump v United States was an enabling act.
If they felt bound by precedent you might have a point, but they don’t. If and when there is another Democrat in power they will certainly find justifications for denying them the powers they are now granting to Trump. They question them becomes will the Democrat play their game or take the powers they gave the executive branch and run with it.
Exactly.
The SCOTUS broke me this week. I guess it is fitting when it happened on the one-year anniversary of the infamous “debate” that sealed our fate. Too bad I rarely drink or have a gummy.
Read my comment here on what George Conway said on MSNBC when he did a great put down on Melissa Murray, who is an idiot, and also rude. Watch the video. George is great. You’ll feel better after.
Broke me as well. And I don't drink or use gummies. Oy.
Jim? I want to thank you for turning me on to The Rooster a few years ago. I don’t live in Ohio, but you guys have enough fuckery going on in your state house to keep even the most casual political observer gobsmacked. And DJ covers it all with his *sewer blog* humor and it’s fantastic! Cheers!
Every Saturday, I take a look at this and am impressed by all that The Bulwark does every week.