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JF's avatar

Stephen Miller is “distasteful”? He’s a full bore Nazi, and he doesn’t even try to hide it. His stated presentation of our new world is one governed by the iron laws of strength, force and power. No mention of laws. A better descriptor of Miller is “evil”. We have to say it.

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Kim Nesvig's avatar

Following Stephen Miller’s world view, every big, belligerent ape should be free to take whatever he wants from whomever he can. Why bother with laws against theft or rape? Who cares if our taking is based on a false pretext? Who cares if there are unforeseen consequences of allowing the Hitlers and the Putins and the Trumps of the world just do what they want to whomever they want?

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JF's avatar

Yes, I agree with your scenario that such a world view will trickle down to social interactions on a personal level. When Miller, or any of them, speak in such tones of extreme dominance on the world stage, I hear loud echoes of domestic violence. Misogyny is in the march. It’s all connected.

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Kate Fall's avatar

It already has trickled down, or perhaps it trickled up. Hmm, that's a question.

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JF's avatar

I’ve heard it said that civilization is a thin veneer. I think we are getting a bi-directional illustration.

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Smike's avatar

It really does blow my mind that there are people out there like Mr. Miller who seem to think that "might makes right" is some kind of moral guide, and that restricting the use of force by developing a system of laws is somehow... a deviation from some kind of Eden, rather than the single most important thing that promotes human flourishing. There's a reason that literally the second story in the bible about people is the one about the first act of violence being punished by God.

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ERNEST HOLBURT's avatar

Meanwhile, Mr. Tough Guy lives on a military base and travels with security.

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rlritt's avatar

I bet Stephen Miller was picked on all thru school for being a weenie asshole. Now he will get his revenge. If only we go back in time to his college years and pay some girl to have sex with him.

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ERNEST HOLBURT's avatar

It would have to be a lot of money.

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rlritt's avatar

Yes, yes it would, but we'll worth it.

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Huffman: Doing Nothing's avatar

I just don’t understand how Miller doesn’t see the logical outcome.

The only absolute laws are physics. Everything else is an agreement.

Does Stephen Miller think he survives in a world where laws break down and physical dominance rules?

I feel like he watched Batman and didn’t get that it is all an allegory about societal breakdown. He just thinks he is Batman.

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Smike's avatar

I think the answer is yes. Most people who think like this assume, wrongly, that they will always be the ones with the big stick. Anyone who isn't a total fool should know that you can't guarantee that.

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James Byham's avatar

" total fool " you hit the nail on the head.

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TomD's avatar

A coalition of the willing comprised of every country in the UN but ours would defeat us easily. In Stephen Miller's world, that would be just. (If he keeps it up, he may make it so.)

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Dave Yell's avatar

More like Bateman. "Go home and do a podcast or something".

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Ginny's avatar

Maybe we need to put Miller in a cage with a big belligerent ape.

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Lady Emsworth's avatar

Too late.

He's already working with one.

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rlritt's avatar

Maybe we need an investigation and a trial.

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B Breivogel's avatar

This seems to be trumps logic. He can do what he likes (shooting on 5th ave or assaulting women) and should suffer no consequences.

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TomD's avatar

Like Hobbes' state of nature.

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LHS's avatar

Exactly. Nasty, brutish and short lives.

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TomD's avatar
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It clear now why they don't trouble themselves to have clear, consistent accounts of their actions. They don't give a shit and they want us to know it. Miller doesn't mince words. A US invasion of Greenland would be as good example of the war crime "Waging Aggressive War" as you could ever find. Orders to that end are therefore as good examples of illegal orders that must not be followed as you'll find.

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Lady Emsworth's avatar

I wonder what the troops trump sends in to "occupy" Greenland will do when they find it is already occupied by all the Greenlanders - plus about two million Danes and 5 million from other European countries, standing shoulder to shoulder on that little piece of land? It'll look like Emperor penguins in camo. My kids are already looking up how to get there.

If the American government and the American people won't stand up to this thug, someone else has got to.

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TomD's avatar

Trump's "reasoning" about Greenland makes Venezuela look well-thought out. He claims to need access to the arctic, while dissing Canada with an arctic span second only to Russia's. We already *have* a base on the west coast of Greenland, Pituffik (formerly Thule) as big as Chicago, and have had since after WW II. The Greenlanders and Danes would not hesitate to grant us other bases if need be. if we need rate earth minerals, they would sell them to us. My hunch is that Trump wants Greenland to meet Putin's interests, not ours.

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McRob1234's avatar

He strikes me as a Dark Tetrad personality. There's something devious and malicious behind those eyes.

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JF's avatar
2dEdited

I need to look up that particular diagnosis. For some reason I’m shocked that the malevolence is so obvious in his physical manifestation. It’s like a cartoon, when overly dramatic imagery is part of the narrative.

Edit; I just looked up dark tetrad. The addition of “sadism” to the dark triad definitely works with Miller.

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Kathy Boelte's avatar

Also looked up the term. Horrifying.

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Lady Emsworth's avatar

I keep a scrapbook of pictures of Miller.

When my kids misbehave, I just have to reach for it. . .

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JF's avatar
2dEdited

Really? If you’re serious, I can admit to maintaining a digital file of screenshots of Trump at his worst. It satisfies something in the reptilian part of my brain, I guess.

(I never thought of doing the same with Miller; it might melt my iPad.)

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ERNEST HOLBURT's avatar

His wife is just like him. They are reincarnations of the commander and his wife who ran Auschwitz, except without the conscience.

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JF's avatar

They are both so obviously mentally ill, as is Trump and several others in their orbit. It’s remarkable and distressing how often seriously unbalanced people rise to the highest levels of power. I’m guessing a lot of ink has been spilled on that topic.

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JF's avatar

I was so shocked to learn he had found someone who had agreed to marry and spawn with him. Hoo boy now that she’s a public face, I think they must be two halves of a split zygote. I just cannot fathom how one survives with so much constant anger and hate.

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MAP's avatar

He must have been so picked on or so thin skinned growing up that he vowed he would destroy everyone and everything that he hated, and that includes all of us. He is a cartoon villain come to life, only we aren't living in a cartoon.

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J S's avatar

I agree, but it's not enough to say he or MAGA's principles are evil. As bad as it sounds, America won't budge until they see the cost of that evil. Dollars and cents are the most reliable context for that, and about the only other reliable red line is pedophilia, which is why the Epstein files have resonated so deeply.

Essentially, we have to pull the fire alarm, make people aware they are burning, and lead them to the exit.

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Kate Fall's avatar

Pedophilia isn't moving the needle. The Epstein files are resonating with victims of rape and assault, but nobody else. And men in government don't get assaulted so they don't see any problems.

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Frau Katze's avatar

Agree. Few MAGA care about Epstein now. They cared when they thought it would expose legions of Democrats. Exposing Trump was never part of the plan.

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J S's avatar

Epstein files resonate with all people who care about rape, assault, children, etc. (agreed that number it isn't enough), but I don't know that a silver bullet exists to break up the MAGA coalition on its own. The biggest lead-in is still and always the economy, even if it isn't the most important.

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JF's avatar

I agree that words only go so far, but I think our position of “opposition” has been too reluctant to cross some invisible line of old fashioned decorum. That same caution caused Garland to move too slowly on prosecuting Trump. The old rules and niceties are gone; apparently citizens want blatant fighting and aggression.

I definitely agree about the power of financial pain. Which is why many at The Bulwark don’t wish for SCOTUS to ‘rescue’ Trump by shutting down his tariffs (the hot stove).

Apparently the impact of Epstein is starting to fade among MAGA. Wag the dog works, otherwise known as “flood the zone with sh*t”.

I expect something even more cataclysmic than a fading economy might also occur. They have greatly increased our enemies, destroyed any hope of allies defending us, and combined with a decapitated national intelligence infrastructure, we are a sitting target for something awful.

Leading the hostile, uninformed MAGAs to the exit is an optimistic image. If only.

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Don White's avatar

Stephen Miller is the Reinhard Heydrich of the Project 2025 maladministration.

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Lynn  Bentson's avatar

He even looks like Heydrich (who died in 1942)

wikipedia for those of us who are too lazy to do actual research

Reinhard Tristan Eugen Heydrich (/ˈhaɪdrɪk/; German: [ˈʁaɪnhaʁt ˈtʁɪstan ˈʔɔʏɡn̩ ˈhaɪdʁɪç] ⓘ; 7 March 1904 – 4 June 1942) was a German high-ranking SS and police official in Nazi Germany as well as one of the principal architects of the Holocaust. He held the rank of SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Polizei. Many historians regard Heydrich as one of the most sinister figures within the Nazi regime.[5][6][7] Adolf Hitler described him as "the man with the iron heart."[4]

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Don White's avatar

Heydrich called the 1942 Wannsee Conference the produced the architecture for The Final Solution - the extermination of Europe's Jewish populations.

There are parallels between the Wannsee design and our Mass Deportation program: the initial involvement of security services to identify and "collect" deportees; the use of deportation centers (1942 - ghettos) to prepare deportees for transport; and marshaling the transportation means (airlines v. national train system) to disperse deportees outside the homeland.

The NDSAP focused Germany's purpose as "Germans for Germans" - this included, of course, German Jews but they were not spared despite their nationality. In many cases, U.S. citizenship has been ignored in the push to deport people.

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Rebel's avatar

There's a reason why they called him The Chupacabra on Kimmel.

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JF's avatar

I had to look that up! We could also use “goat sucker”.

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LHS's avatar

Steve Schmidt's post about Miller today is blunt.

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JF's avatar

Thanks - I’ll go there next. We can always count on Steve Schmidt to be blunt. We needed more of that, but we didn’t know it.

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No Sympathy, No Charity's avatar

Fuck it, time for Darwin to take the wheel. I think we have worried about helpless children long enough. Sometimes the son pays for the sins of the father. Life is “brutish and short,” and the kids might as well realize it early.

I’m sorry, the vaccine news last night truly broke me.

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jpg's avatar

It’s a weird sort of suicidal eugenics, all cheering for the freedom to drive into wall at 60 mph to see what happens.

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David Court's avatar

To bad they did not try some test runs of these ideas when the Brain Worm Host was a child. Or did they? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

Funny, not funny, these adults all had vaccines when they were children, so we know vaccines worked. Now they want others to not have that ability for the other’s children. Of course, the fools will have their children vaccinated, it’s your children they don’t care about. But then it was this president who scoffed at COVID 19 as nothing to worry about, it would be gone in one month, and then recommended a drug that rids horses of parasites and an ingestion of a bleach compound. Felon Trump truly likes the uneducated.

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I spent years working in a major children's hospital as a clinical assessor and asthma educator. The very vaccines that HHS is not recommending flu, RSV, rotovirus, account for most of the hospitalizations of children. All cause dehydration leading to other problems. Good going GOP for dooming the next generation of children.

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ERNEST HOLBURT's avatar

I worked on an Apache reservation before the vaccine. The infants went from normal to the brink of death in less than 12 hours. The idea that Republicans are pro-life is straight out of Orwell.

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David Court's avatar

Then, one has to wonder, why he wants to eliminate so many of them, or let his favorite Kennedy, because he work for the Felon, plan it.

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Frau Katze's avatar

He’s stupid himself and seems pretty uneducated too, despite having a degree. I think he really believes Kennedy’s nonsense.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

Because in his Brave New World, you have to get rid of the “others.” That’s you and me and a few others. Hitler wanted to take over Poland so there would be a ready source of slaves. Miller’s idol.

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David Court's avatar

But there are not enough people in Greenland to feed Miller's slave markets.

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Kate Fall's avatar

I will guarantee you this: every single person in RFK Jr.'s orbit looking to make money selling snake oil instead of vaccines has been vaccinated themselves. Every single Trump administration employee is vaccinated. The parents who watch their kids die of measles? You don't want to know how many of them are vaccinated. That's what broke me.

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David Court's avatar

Those parents seem to me like good vaccines wasted....

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Sue's avatar

When ICE Barbie plagiarized the work of a Japanese artist to represent the peace and quiet that all Americans would enjoy after the nasty immigrants were deported, she made a very strange choice. Not a beach lightly populated by light skinned people, perhaps something from a 1950's ad for suntan lotion, or an AI imitation of one, but a completely deserted beach, no footprints in the sand, no sign of human presence except an abandoned old car. What's she telling us -- that the U.S. will eventually be an entirely empty wasteland, purged of immigrants, then of "libtards," then anyone suspected of thinking disloyal thoughts, then anyone whose immune system just wasn't up to Aryan standards of excellence and deserved to die of preventable diseases, until absolutely no one is left? The peace of the grave? The beauty of nature reclaiming abandoned places?

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JF's avatar

I guess their brave new AI world doesn’t need workers, so, trim the herd early?

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Kathe Rich's avatar

I believe that most physicians and health organizations will continue to follow evidence-based practice guidelines for pediatric and other vaccinations. The problem is reimbursement by insurance. (It is cheaper, however, to prevent an illness than to treat it, so insurance companies may decide to cover the costs anyway.)

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MAP's avatar

I think they will. They are greedy but they aren't stupid.

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Lynn  Bentson's avatar

Thank Gosh for the physician professional societies and the West Coast Health Alliance . Alaska dint join . Too bad because Hep B is a killer there , still .

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Scott Gaynor's avatar

It's ok.

I broke when Trump got re-elected.

Want to destroy the economy? No problem.

Want to dismantle FEMA and every other disaster response? No problem.

Want to do away with vaccines? No problem.

I got mine, my kids are good. So fuck 'em. Let the poor and ignorant suffer at their own choices.

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willoughby's avatar

Republicans are now all accomplices, both to the original coup attempt and to everything that has happened since Donald was sworn in for the second time. They are as incentivized to lawlessness, demagoguery and corruption as the Trump family and the Trump inner circle: and they give every appearance of preparing not just for the 2028 presidential election, but for the 2026 mid-terms, which for the moment show every sign of becoming a "blue wave."

Ordinary Republicans could once have ceded power, however grudgingly and bitterly. But co-conspirators, accomplices, eyeballs-deep in acts of lawlessness and corruption, have every reason to behave criminally, and to participate in the next coup attempt, since their own fall from power could leave a great many of them vulnerable to prosecution and punishment.

There's an old Spencer Tracy movie called Bad Day At Black Rock, in which--long story short--an entire community is revealed to have become co-conspirators in an awful crime and its subsequent coverup. The Republican Party is having its Black Rock moment.

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David Court's avatar

No disagreement with your conclusion about the 2026 mid-terms, but I prefer the analogy of a "reverse red tsunami", with the East of the Mississippi debris washing out to the Mid-Atlantic Range, and the West debris into the Marianas Trench.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

Saw that movie. It was a little cheesy in the settings, but powerful in its message. “Bad day at Black Rock” is one of my usual sayings instead of cursing.

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M. Trosino's avatar

Too bad Spencer Tracy isn't around today. Since the Ds have a penchant for fighting with one arm tied behind their backs, he could teach them how to do that a lot more effectively. But Tracy was a Republican, so....

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willoughby's avatar

Witty!

On your final point, he was a close friend of Supreme Court Chief Justice William O Douglas as well as a longtime partner of Kate Hepburn: which suggests his Republicanism was of the variety today's Republicans would call "crazed radical left lunatic Marxist communist scum."

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M. Trosino's avatar

Wait a minute... I must've missed something...

We were talking about Spencer Tracy and now you're talkin' about John Wayne? :-)

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Dave's avatar

Reminds me of the movie "High Plains Drifter".

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julia dream's avatar

HPD is a fabulous ghost story! YESSSS!

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Deutschmeister's avatar

If you live long enough (and pretty much all of us qualify at this stage), you come to realize that there are certain dates in history that qualify as Then and Now moments in time -- there was what was before that date, and a very different reality afterward.

December 7, 1941 comes to mind. November 22, 1963 is safely on the list. September 11, 2001 of course. Quite possibly April 19, 1995 too. (I'd even add December 8, 1980, in a non-political capacity.) January 6, 2021 likewise belongs there. The difference is, on all those others dates, it was comfortably someone else who was the evildoer, the enemy of our shared interests. But January 6 was populated by a lot of people ostensibly just like us -- friends, family members, coworkers, people who fix our appliances, and stand next to us in line at the grocery store, and worship with us on Sundays. We struggle to make peace with the knowledge that so many of the perpetrators were so average otherwise, in an everyday sense. And that they still are out there, doing what they do like always but ready to take up the battle again at the slightest urging by their cult hero and his enablers/parasites.

The new normal, as of five years ago today, is that we are just one provoked incident away from meltdown mode again in our culture, with no assurance that the Good Guys here ever will win again. Those guardrails no longer stand, and the bus drivers need not be qualified to drive the vehicle before it goes over the cliff. It is the largely unspoken reality of our time that January 6 has been normalized to the point of not only happening again someday in all likelihood, but also of being denied by legions of people who cry "fake news" and "AI" and otherwise tell us that what we see with our own eyes did not happen unless they allow it to be so, and what didn't happen in fact did, but was covered up by conspiracies and bad governance by liberal elites. Mommy, make it stop. Daddy, beat up the bad men.

Up is down, right is left, new is old, backward is forward, and truth is what you choose to believe rather than what evidence shows to be the case. And we wonder why those below a certain age see all this, check out mentally, choose a different reality with their devices and social media, and leave it for the rest of us to make sense of it all while they increasingly choose not to bring kids into this weird, unappealing world. Who can blame them for that? It is our collective gift to them, not that they asked for it in the first place.

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Charles G.'s avatar

How preposterous to even think about invading Greenland! What is the warped view of geopolitics that approves of unilaterally invading any other country, never mind an ally's territory, and giving license to our adversaries to do the same thing? For as sure as the sun rises in the morning, Putin will cite our action against Venezuela as justification for annexing all of Ukraine and could very well embolden Xi to invade Taiwan. The U.S. has its sphere of influence, Russia and China have theirs. A new world order. A calamity that will reverberate for decades.

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Kim Nesvig's avatar

I’m pretty sure that Putin planted the notion of invading Greenland in Trumps rather limited imagination. Pretty sure we already have airbase there and frankly, for the US there’s limited strategic advantage of boots on the melting ice cap. The strategic value is for Putin. He gets an American President to destroy NATO.

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Charles G.'s avatar

Yes. The notion of spheres of influence is something that Putin has advocated for years. And, as we well know, Trump listens to Putin.

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max skinner's avatar

My theory is that since the Scandinavian countries joined NATO, Putin feels the need to have some toehold, some place from which to stage espionage and military action in extreme Northern Europe. Greenland is it plus it has oil and minerals.

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Frau Katze's avatar

Russia (and the USSR before) have been trying to destroy NATO for a long time.

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max skinner's avatar

No doubt about that.

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Dave's avatar

I'm not sure we have rights to the rare minerals though and I think that is part of the "desire" to take Greenland - but I may be wrong since the zone is flooded with sh*t

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Lynn  Bentson's avatar

yes , he won without ever firing a shot

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Kotzsu's avatar

World War 3 + 19th century imperialism, but with nuclear bombs. Weeee

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Don Gates's avatar

Really good stuff from Egger. I found his description of Trump testing his theory of his base particularly striking. As far as those GOP officials,

"These people wouldn’t flat-out deny that January 6th happened, but they’ve mentally sequestered its memory and significance, refusing to allow it to force them into any uncomfortable conclusions. They’d laugh you out of the room for suggesting, for instance, that what happened just five years ago could plausibly happen again."

And they would have laughed you out of the room for suggesting on January 5, 2021, that what happened could happen. TDS is their go-to, all-purpose conversation stopper. Except TDS turns the tables; it depicts the evidence-based prognosticator as unhinged, while it falsely paints denial as reasonableness and sense.

And this is a great line from Kristol on Golem Miller: "One has the sense that even his colleagues shudder when forced to be in his spectral presence." Everybody but Katie Miller shudders, apparently, who described her racist little Nosferatu as a "sexual matador." And his little display on Tapper's show has me rooting real hard against America. Such bluster indicates a regime in need of decapitation as much as Venezuela's, even more, as we are now a threat not just to ourselves, but the world. Fuck all these bastards. The rest of the civilized world has moved well past the Melian Dialogue, and this rhetoric is reckless and dangerous, especially in light of the attack on Venezuela.

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max skinner's avatar

I'm not surprised that J6 has been memory holed or rationalized. Look at what happened with Covid in which only dislike of masks, vaccinations, and a feeling that churches were unfairly closed remains while the death of millions across the world is ignored.

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ChelseaGirl's avatar

My thoughts exactly on the Egger piece. I've been politically active and worked hard to elect Harris in 2024. But when America looked at Trump and said, "yes, more of that please" something changed for me.

Fine. FAFO.

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Don Gates's avatar

I appreciate your work for the Harris campaign. And something died inside for me as well when we reelected an insurrectionist felon over an eminently qualified woman of color, and did so by a near-majority plurality with Trump winning every swing state. I went into November 5 certain Harris would win, and the outcome was nothing if not revelatory of just what a degraded nation we are.

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julia dream's avatar

A year-ish ago I believe it was JVL who was channeling his Dark Sith twin and suggested that we just have to let folks "touch the stove." When hundreds of children die in epidemics in the US, I wonder if it will be karmic recompense for what our cessation of USAID has done around the world ... Who will the US blame then?

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The Blockhead Chronicles's avatar

I was just thinking that these MAHA people have never looked at the gravestones in pre-20th century cemeteries. There was a reason people had large families.

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Weswolf's avatar

Unreliable birth control was part of family size. The right is working to restore that situation, too. Nineteenth century, here we come!

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MAP's avatar

I used to think that way. Now, I think they want to take us back even further, to a time when they are lords, we are serfs, few are literate or educated, and faith is the only solace of the poor (you and me). And along with ignorance and superstition, starvation, poverty, disease, and death.

Only now with robots and AI.

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McRob1234's avatar

They've never lived in and experienced firsthand what a society looks like when fundamental things break down due to war, famine, disease, etc. Basic and rudimentary assumptions about things functioning can no longer be taken for granted. Most people can't even fathom that.

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ChelseaGirl's avatar

I think of Trump's rally line, "What have you got to lose?"

Quite a lot, it turns out. A complete failure of the imagination among his voters.

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BlueOntario's avatar

It was their god's will.

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Sheri Smith's avatar

Even early 20th century, before antibiotics became common.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

And in Colonial times and later, parents did not name their children until they were three years old. That’s why so many markers say baby and not the child’s name. Parents weren’t certain their children would live.

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Vic's avatar

I really don't think Trump's base cares how many children die.

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David Court's avatar

As long as theirs got the 17 vaccines?

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Frau Katze's avatar

Many of Trump’s base are true believers. They’ll skip the vaccines.

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max skinner's avatar

Even the white "heritage American" babies?

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JF's avatar

And beyond the destruction of RFK Jr to the nation’s health, Stephen Miller’s view of the world governed by force implicitly means a lot of Americans are going to die in military service, on a never-ending basis.

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Lance Cherry's avatar

Biden of course…

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Kate Fall's avatar

Blame? I'm confused. Vaccinated parents of unvaccinated children who die say it was God's will. You gonna blame God?

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Kathe Rich's avatar

They do. That's how they rationalize it.

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Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

Easy. As usual, MAGA will blame their all-time favorite scapegoat: the Democrats.

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TomD's avatar
2dEdited

"Who’s to say Trump couldn’t try to pull the same thing here?"

What same thing? Trump canceling elections until he nurses the country back to health. Not Stephen Miller. For him, the question whether any one can stop him is the only question that matters. Anyone who thinks Miller and Trump and MAGA will make an exception for the US Constitution better think again.

We have a huge base in Greenland, Pituffik (formerly Thule). Its footprint is a big as the city of Chicago. Greenland, and Denmark, would gladly let us and NATO have more than that if needed--e.g, to monitor the expanse between Iceland, Norway and the UK. Similarly, they would be happy to talk to us about rare earth metals and anything else (nearly) that might be of interest.

None of that has happened, yet the fascist prick Stephen Miller in on CNN asserting that our"right" to seize Greenland is founded on our ability to do so.

There is only one explanation for Trump's enthusiasm for Greenland. He wants it for Russia, not for NATO. There has been much discussion about whether we have defacto left NATO. Have we also enlisted in the BRICS bloc?

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David Court's avatar

"None of that has happened, yet the fascist prick Stephen Miller in on CNN asserting that our"right" to seize Greenland is founded on our ability to do so." It is clear that the Nazi does not mean HIS ability to seize Greenland, rather that of active duty service members. He would not get any closer to a front line fight than a screen in a SKIF.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

Like Hawley standing behind a barrier with his fist raised in the air, in support of the January 6th rioters, only to be running like a scared rabbit through the Senate building because a mob is after him. Miller will be hiding in a bunker, like his idol.

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David Court's avatar

I think that Miller sees the Felon as his malleable puppet, not his idol.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

I concur. If there were no microphones I would bet what Miller says about DonOld couldn’t be printed in a public newspaper.

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David Court's avatar

Certainly not without a multi-billion dollar lawsuit for defamation.

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TomD's avatar

True. I'm wondering if he was picked on in high school.

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David Court's avatar

Miller or the Felon, or both?😏

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TomD's avatar

I was thinking Miller. As a high school student, he wrote a letter to the Santa Monica newspaper complaining bitterly about having to hear morning announcements in Spanish as well as English.

I don't know about the Felon. He was packed off the military school. I don't know how he got along there, but I do know he was sent for some level of misbehavior.

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Tim Coffey's avatar

Bill: "The Founders did not want or expect a world without treaties or a world in which our own government would view treaties with contempt. The point of the United States, one could almost say, was to move as much as possible beyond the world Stephen Miller relishes, a world simply “governed by force, governed by power.”"

I've written about this before, but my wife and I went to Pearl Harbor last year to visit the USS Arizona Memorial and the USS Missouri. On the latter, the location where the Japanese signed the articles of surrender is clearly marked and there's a photo of Chester Nimitz, Douglas MacArthur, John McCain's grandfather, and others from that day. There was no chest thumping from MacArthur. If you read his speeches from that day -- one delivered on the Missouri and his radio address afterwards -- they are the words of a man who knew what had been lost on all sides of the conflict and delivered a warning that in the age of the atomic bomb, the world could not continue as it did without inviting Armageddon (his word).

I think Stephen Miller is a weak, bitch-ass punk, the quintessential "creep loser" who is using his power to get back at people he resents. But that doesn't mean he's not dangerous. I'm not sure what's going to happen going forward, but I'm mentally preparing myself for death and destruction throughout the world. Miller would probably label MacArthur "woke"; MacArthur would likely send Miller to his room after taking a belt to his ass without supper. At the end of the day, however, we have to remind ourselves that we are where we are because 77 million of our fellow citizens chose this, and our fate will be the same as theirs. We have forgotten MacArthur's words and warning because to riff off JVL, we are a decadent people who are civically desiccated and don't consider the consequences of our actions. Well, we're about to get a real time lesson in what happens when we stop being a serious, decent people. We deserve what's coming.

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James Richardson's avatar

Yup

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Maryann Boyd's avatar

Half a decade? It seems like just last week. I happened to be watching TV news when it started. I will never forget the horror I felt. The heartbreak. And trump? I don't think he ever plans to leave office until he is dead. He will make up some excuse in order to stay. Who is going to go drag him out of the white house? None of his staff, none of his Secretaries, and not the military. It is hard to keep hope in your heart.

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Sue's avatar

In 2028, he will be 82, the same age as Biden during their last debate. But Trump's dementia is much more severe and is progressing faster. If he's still alive in 2028, there's no way that even the most devoted MAGA will be able to pass him off as fit to govern. He may still be the nominal President, but he won't be running the show any more than Woodrow Wilson or Chairman Mao did after they were disabled by strokes. Say hello to "temporary" regent Stephen Miller.

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Maryann Boyd's avatar

Oh God NO! That would be worse. I don't think he will run again, I think he will find an excuse to cancel the election. I no longer put anything past him.

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Lynn  Bentson's avatar

We can always hope there is a literal knife fight between JD and Miller , and they BOTH die.

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Justin Lee's avatar

Like Andrew, I too worry that a Democratic president-elect will not be allowed to peacefully take office. While that is a very legitimate concern, I really think we should stop talking about it. One of the most powerful voter suppression tactics is to convince the public that voting doesn't matter, because the people in power will just ignore the outcome if it doesn't suit them.

So, let's keep this worry about the transition of power in our minds, but out of our mouths and off of our keyboards.

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J AZ's avatar

The Civil War was said to have ended on April 9, 1865… and Trump’s insurrection on 1/6/2021.

History may question those dates

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J S's avatar

Definitely did not need the mental image of Trump nursing anybody.

Is there anyone so ghoulish and obviously compensating for some... smallness as Stephen Miller? Being Tiny's top toady, that's saying something.

The midterms are everything right now. Then 2028 becomes everything. Another Jan 6th is 💯 on its way, and it's only survivable if the opposition can set aside difference and unite for the next 3 years.

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JF's avatar

I was just looking at a photo of Miller speaking to the press, and even his standing-still body language screams there is something wrong with him. He just dangles his arms, like a lifeless sack of skin holding back gelatinous poison.

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Sheri Smith's avatar

He’s a psychopath.

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Susan Wagner's avatar

Let's always remember The Four Freedoms FDR spoke so eloquently about in his 1941 Inaugural Address. We must reclaim our America. And we can't count on our politicians ( frankly on both sides of the aisle) nor our institutions that had, until Trump, acted as bulwarks for Democracy. Reposting an article from the Grassroots Connector as a helpful, lyrical reminder.

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mw's avatar
2dEdited

Still think there are "Good Republicans" left in this country, democowards? Still believe they care about the rule of law and the Constitution? The coup WILL happen again because no one learned the lesson the first time.

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JF's avatar

There was definitely a collective failure of imagination to see how truly evil the whole MAGA enterprise is - even though they spelled it out in bold face.

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mw's avatar

No, more like a collective stupidity on the part of the left for the last 40 years. These creatures have been telegraphing loudly their intentions, and the democoward response was always "give us time, this is new to us" before they go before cameras with their tortured lies to convince voters they had no choice but to do absolutely nothing about it.

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Lynn  Bentson's avatar

so you are mad at the ds because the rs are evil ? The ds are ineffective but they are not the evil ones

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mw's avatar

No, the ds are total cowards, that's what I'm mad about. They don't stand up for what they believe in other than competing with the GOP on how far to shove their heads up Israel's ass. All the white right has to do is fire up the outrage machine and yellow streaks break out on the backs of democrats all over DC.

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jpg's avatar

But Susan Collins is very concerned. 🤣

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mw's avatar

Quick!, alert the media! This will be the big story of the day, lol!! "Susan Collins expresses concern!, we'll have coverage throughout the day of this important breaking news story!"

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Kate Fall's avatar

Susan Collins went Nazi early, and like all of that ilk, she learned to lie about it quickly.

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J S's avatar
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There have to be good Republicans, or at least former ones. Point being We the People must unite against the ~30% who will never move away from Trump. Alienating anyone in the next several years will be a very costly mistake.

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mw's avatar

And you are the reason we are here right now. Still believing their lies. Do you ACTUALLY believe only 30% support that asshole? The electoral math of the last election says otherwise.

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J S's avatar

Wow, didn't realize I had so much power, thank you for revealing that to me! 💘

I'll use this new influence to clarify my math... surveys all show there is a mostly unmovable 30%-ish of voters that are ride or die with Trump, and those surveys have been consistent since late 2015. That's how I arrive at that number: quantifiable history. A little more than half of the GOP were satisfied with the election's outcome in December 2024. Where is the administration's approval rating right now? 36%.

I think what you're correctly pointing out is actually the meaning behind the last thing I said about NOT alienating anyone. It's simple math -- you can't win an election with 30% of the vote in a 2-way race. So where did the other ~20% come from? Those were the folks who aren't MAGA but didn't buy what the Democrats were selling. Whether it was being gaslit about how great the economy wasn't; rejection of identity politics; Biden's widely perceived feebleness; Harris's terrible ability to think on her feet; or all of it? You also have to remember that millions of Democrats didn't vote after going Biden in 2020.

So yeah, I stand by what I said. We have to unite. If you consider that the problem, what's your solution?

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mw's avatar

Quite the word vomit to repeat what we all know, and yet here we are. Keep those rose-colored glasses and moral superiority blanket wrapped tightly around you as the county continues to fall apart. The rest of us are getting ready for what's coming.

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J S's avatar

Are you ok? Not in the sense of the country being ok (it very much isn't), but you're not making any sense.

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mw's avatar

Truth hurts? Did I hit a nerve? Your faux concern is faux touching.

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Sandy's avatar

Machado prostituting herself to Trump is truly nauseating

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