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Travis. Today was a glorious, cloudless day, warm, the first one like it of the season around these parts, and I spent it with my 88-year old mother who is suffering from Alzheimer's. It was a good day, though it meant not being able to respond meaningfully to our discourse.

I agree that words do matter. So I thought this might be helpful to deepening our ongoing exchange. Genocide doesn't only manifest in the manner you described. There is also cultural genocide, such as in the the long, tortuous genocide inflicted on native American peoples, perhaps most exemplified by Trump's favorite president Andrew Jackson in what has become known as The March of Tears and the horrors that ensued.

Given that I have little time right now to respond as meaningfully as I would like, I thought I would pass this along as it reflects my views of the plight of the situation in Gaza and the Palestinian people generally. I'll be interested in your response. I recommend reading the text.

Kind regards.

https://open.substack.com/pub/chrishedges/p/a-genocide-foretold-read-by-eunice?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=yqix2

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Travis's avatar

And ask yourself this: if Native American tribes for the last 20 years were launching rockets into civilian areas outside of reservations in the US and occasionally doing incursions into random suburbs outside of their reservations to murder, rape, and take hostages while building tunnel networks under their reservations and firing missiles at any police vehicles who came into those reservations to arrest them—all while declaring that the US must be ridded of “foreign occupiers”—while refusing to accept any kind of “2-state solution”—how do you think any given “strong on security” GOP administration would respond to those collective actions? Would it be much different than how the Likud party does things? Would we be talking about giving them the entire American southwest back as a 2nd state to live alongside? Think about that.

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Travis's avatar

Cultural genocide—while terrible—is *not* the same thing as *actual* genocide—far far worse and often accompanied by cultural genocide anyway. Words matter, and so do degrees of separation, which is why there’s still a huge difference between cultural genocide and *actual* genocide. Is there some overlap in that Venn diagram? Sure. Is there still a whole lot of non-overlap? Absolutely. Violently-forced displacement—such as those suffered by Eastern-European Gypsies or Native American tribes or Gazans is *still* not the same as real genocide, where peoples are often not given the option to flee—unless they are lucky enough to get out early—and are instead rounded up and executed once discovered just for being who they are (rather than incidentally killed while armed forces pursue terrorists who hide themselves amongst a honeycomb of tunnels that the Gazans condoned the construction of and who in turn use those same Gazans as martyrdom sandbags for protection and PR).

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