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Michael's avatar

Sure, that makes sense. I meant more of our modern impulse to assume social media is real life. I think those protestors are more interested in a performance than engaging in the messy reality of politics. If they were cognizant of that reality, I think they’d realize how much they help Trump and other aspiring demagogues on the right.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Before the Civil War, abolitionists were often accused of helping slave owners because of their extremist views. Single issue activists eventually can move the world. People, like me, who compromised seldom do

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knowltok's avatar

"Single issue activists eventually can move the world."

Of course, that can apply to both good and bad movements.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Of course.

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Jonathan Reel's avatar

Doesn’t it trivialize American slavery to compare it with a foreign country’s excessive response to a terrorist attack? It is perverse for immigrants to chant “death to America” over American military aid.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

You turn to sell me that I should ignore one evil because another one might be worse. At least the slaves got to live, but the Palestinian women and children don't. Angry people do a lot of extreme things like chant, “Death to America.” You don't have to be offended at their behavior unless you really really want to.

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SandyG's avatar

This fact is missing from your view of the Palestinian women and children who have lost their lives: Their leaders are terrorists.

You can't decouple the innocent non-combatants from the guilty combantants who launched the massacre of innocent Israelis on Oct 7th.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Gaza had its last election in 2007, and the “leaders” have refused to have one ever since. At this point Hamas are the dictators, not the elected leaders of Gaza. The women and children of Gaza are not responsible for the people who lord it over them without an election.

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Michael's avatar

Were they? Not sure this analogy works.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Ohh, the abolitionists were blasted for “tearing the nation apart.” Lincoln himself was in favor of gradual emancipation before the war. He thought that slavery would last till 1900. His only demand was that slavery not be extended to any new state.

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Michael's avatar

I’m not sure these protestors are quite the same as abolitionists.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

Abolitionists were originally faith-based. They had more than one core belief or issue.

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SandyG's avatar

Agree.

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