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William's avatar

The Jews are people, they don’t have a single will that makes a decision en masses, so they didn’t move back ‘when they could.’ Jewish moral and economic entrepreneurs looked at the Holocaust (and the past pogroms in Russia and Eastern Europe) said ‘never again’, and decided a Jewish State was the solution. As for the definition above for colonialism is pretty much how the Jewish state began. I’m not interested in ‘misconceptions, misinformation and lies’ either.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

I never said that Jews, of which I am one, went back in masses, but during the Zionist movement, many returned on their own accord.

And how can you claim that Israel began as a colonialist state? Exactly who or which country did they represent? Secondly, Jews lived in Palestine during the Ottoman Empire dating back to the 1500’s and made up approximately 5-7% of the population. Far from colonialists. So I’m not sure of the disconnect here.

My point is they didn’t leave Israel willingly during the diaspora, or when being expelled during Roman rule, when many were enslaved and sent to Rome to build their great cities, and others expelled from Israel completely, resettling in Europe, Asia and Africa.

And during the Zionist period, Jews initially bought land from Palestinians during in the late 1800’s? They didn’t immigrate by force or takeover the government.

That said, when did the Palestinians ever rule the country? It went from the Ottoman’s to the British and Egyptians after WW1. Palestine never existed as a sovereign nation. It was a mandate after the fall of the Ottoman’s (after WWI), and remained a mandate until the UN created two separate homelands.

So I’m not sure you’re point!

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