I was happy that you argued that our representatives in government should take to the streets just like regular citizens to oppose ICE. So far it is the average citizen who is actually getting off their butts to demonstrate strongly, our reps have not been with us.
How can we possibly survive 3 more years of this? Republican lawmakers' absence of spines is infuriating but expected, but Democratic lawmakers have to meet this moment (if not this one, then I can't imagine what it would take). Snyder's characterization of the detention centers as concentration camps should be widespread.
ICE killing Goode and Pretti wasn't lack of training. That is their mission, ie terrorizing anti Trump citizens. Minneapolis is not only practice it's purpose is to get cities used to having armed troops take over cities, and in November preventing "illegal" immigrants from voting. Shooting a half a dozen voters should keep people away and prevent a Democratic takeover of Congress.
I have been making calls to my Missouri Senators, Josh Hawley and Eric Schmidt. Hoping to make them chill on more money for DHS. I belong to an Indivisible charter in St Joseph that are doing rallies. Doing all we can. Thanks for keeping us informed JVL.
These are dark days in America, but I am uplifted by the spirit and resolve of Minnesotans. I don't see how Trump wins when he becomes increasingly deligitimized i9n the eyes of the people. The Twin Cities patriots have ground Bovino's abduct-and-deport operation to a crawl with their active resistance. I am fearful of the violent response that may ensue, but I increasingly believe that Americans' deeply rooted love of freedom will prevail.
And now we are all, finally, Stancil-pilled. He called it yesterday, presumably from the driver's seat of his 2011 Honda Fit:
"Minneapolis is winning. The tide is shifting. Can you feel it? It’s their Gettysburg. The first Minnesota is charging down the hill, bayonets drawn. This is their furthest advance and they will go no further. WE ARE GOING TO WIN."
Im not sure which Democratic congress people have gone to Minneapolis, but some have. Don't know if the airport is open. The weather is really bad their.
Ice is receiving SNIPER training. Can't seem to paste link here but check out Lever. My anxiety level regarding peaceful rallies has my blood pressure ratcheted up and off the charts. This has been poorly covered by the news. But should be front page headlines. I hate feeling that I have so little agency and literally no safety.
There are some parallels between what is happening in Minneapolis now and what was happening in Chicago earlier during "Operation Midway 2025" The residents of Minneapolis expanded on what the citizens of Chicago were doing, with ICE responding with escalating violence. ICE abandoned Chicago. Why are they staying in Minneapolis?
Forget about democrats showing up there in force. They are spineless. Not just the seven who voted to fund ICE in the house vote, but also their colleagues who have yet to condemn them.
There is yet hope in the senate as it appears there may be a few republicans who have had enough and will not fund ICE.
Somewhere out there has to be an activist group who realizes the folly of relying on politicians. Is anyone getting ready to organize a national "NO ICE HERE" day of protest? My gut and my hopes tell me turnout at NO ICE HERE rallies around the country would dwarf any of the previous national rallies.
JVL makes an elegant comparison to and analogy with Gettysburg, but the truth is there’s no escaping the analogy to the Third Reich. The people in Minnesota didn’t choose to fight but THE GOP’s goons sure did and they knew exactly what they wanted to do. And yes, please, please start calling them the GOP’s goons- they could end this anytime they wanted.
The people of MN are more like the heroes of 9/11 (I know- no happy ending, but they tried.). They found themselves confronted by danger, hatred and cruelty, got organized and pushed back, fought back, got peppered sprayed and beaten, got shot at and killed in defense of their neighbors and their community. The GOP stood back and let it happen., lied to justify their violence, and smeared the people they murdered. Snyder is right- and they are the monsters among us.
And JVL couldn’t be more right about the Dems- get out there, be seen, be heard, record and report on the terrorists in masks.
This does seem to be a possible tide-turning moment, but there have been 100 before. Yet, a public execution of a VA nurse as he was held down by 5 men in masks is a 😱. It also upsets the 2nd amendment folks.
Trump, who has TACO before, is savvy enough to realize that the lies and disinformation are not working. His invasion is stuck on the beach. Its leaders are incompetent, the troops are untrained, and the mission is lost.
Congress seems to feel the pressure. Millions are leaning on every Democrat, and some Republicans don’t want this fight. Without DHS, Trump loses the ability to send troops to help them. The free states will remain free.
Keep the pressure on. Write, call, stand out in the cold, take pictures, hold signs, blow whistles.
As I said earlier, the minions of DJT will move the goalposts. Now it is the protesters who are impeding law enforcement. Now it is Pretti (remember his name) had a gun and ICE may have prevented a massacre. Now it is ICE being the victim. Now it is just obey and you won't be shot. The latter is the reasoning of my MAGA friends......As Sam has noted, it is time for Democratic Senators to stand up, be creative and think outside the box. Perhaps a good first step would be to show up in MPLS, perhaps outside the Whipple building where ICE is holed up. Earlier Angie Craig, ( candidate for Tina Smith's Senate seat) and Ilhan Omar tried this but were rebuffed. There would be strength in numbers plus the publicity. Remember John Lewis and the Petit bridge? By the way, any Republicans would be welcomed instead of "having concerns".
Don't hold your breath waiting for leadership from current democratic politicians. I had hoped some of those thinking of running in 2028 would step up, but in my 78 years on this earth the democrats have broken my heart too many times to count. Even my own governor -- JB Pritzker -- who fought ICE in Chicago with legal action and won -- is failing to seize the moment.
Trump wanting to get rid of elections should be the beginning of his impeachment. They are the cornerstone of our democracy. That alone should get the votes to impeach him if the legislators are doing their jobs and not just protecting their turf.
I'd rather go through another federal shutdown than fund Homeland Security. Also, any senator or rep who does not fly to MN and dare ICE to attack should be thrown out of office.
I was happy that you argued that our representatives in government should take to the streets just like regular citizens to oppose ICE. So far it is the average citizen who is actually getting off their butts to demonstrate strongly, our reps have not been with us.
How can we possibly survive 3 more years of this? Republican lawmakers' absence of spines is infuriating but expected, but Democratic lawmakers have to meet this moment (if not this one, then I can't imagine what it would take). Snyder's characterization of the detention centers as concentration camps should be widespread.
ICE killing Goode and Pretti wasn't lack of training. That is their mission, ie terrorizing anti Trump citizens. Minneapolis is not only practice it's purpose is to get cities used to having armed troops take over cities, and in November preventing "illegal" immigrants from voting. Shooting a half a dozen voters should keep people away and prevent a Democratic takeover of Congress.
I have been making calls to my Missouri Senators, Josh Hawley and Eric Schmidt. Hoping to make them chill on more money for DHS. I belong to an Indivisible charter in St Joseph that are doing rallies. Doing all we can. Thanks for keeping us informed JVL.
These are dark days in America, but I am uplifted by the spirit and resolve of Minnesotans. I don't see how Trump wins when he becomes increasingly deligitimized i9n the eyes of the people. The Twin Cities patriots have ground Bovino's abduct-and-deport operation to a crawl with their active resistance. I am fearful of the violent response that may ensue, but I increasingly believe that Americans' deeply rooted love of freedom will prevail.
The fascists wont give up easily.
Not for nothing, but MN isn't just having a Gettysburg moment. It also held at Gettysburg: https://www.civilwarmed.org/1st-minnesota-at-gettysburg/
MN, capture-the-flag champions since 7/3/1863: https://www.mnhs.org/mnopedia/search/index/thing/twenty-eighth-virginia-infantry-regimental-battle-flag
And now we are all, finally, Stancil-pilled. He called it yesterday, presumably from the driver's seat of his 2011 Honda Fit:
"Minneapolis is winning. The tide is shifting. Can you feel it? It’s their Gettysburg. The first Minnesota is charging down the hill, bayonets drawn. This is their furthest advance and they will go no further. WE ARE GOING TO WIN."
https://bsky.app/profile/whstancil.bsky.social/post/3mdckjv2hxk22
"Fighting against overwhelming odds, the heroic Minnesotans gained the time necessary for the Union line to reform." There's an dramatic and painstakingly accurate painting by historical artist Don Troiani. https://www.nationalguard.mil/Resources/Image-Gallery/Historical-Paintings/Heritage-Series/First-Minnesota/
Dems still don't get it.
What is more important than all of the Dems showing up en masse in Minneapolis ASAP?
If there is something more important, they've lost the plot & should not be re-elected.
JVL: You are my Yoda. Thank you, kindly — again.
Im not sure which Democratic congress people have gone to Minneapolis, but some have. Don't know if the airport is open. The weather is really bad their.
Ice is receiving SNIPER training. Can't seem to paste link here but check out Lever. My anxiety level regarding peaceful rallies has my blood pressure ratcheted up and off the charts. This has been poorly covered by the news. But should be front page headlines. I hate feeling that I have so little agency and literally no safety.
What can the rest of us do? I sent money. Thats what I got. What else. Do we all go there? How do we do this.
There are some parallels between what is happening in Minneapolis now and what was happening in Chicago earlier during "Operation Midway 2025" The residents of Minneapolis expanded on what the citizens of Chicago were doing, with ICE responding with escalating violence. ICE abandoned Chicago. Why are they staying in Minneapolis?
Forget about democrats showing up there in force. They are spineless. Not just the seven who voted to fund ICE in the house vote, but also their colleagues who have yet to condemn them.
There is yet hope in the senate as it appears there may be a few republicans who have had enough and will not fund ICE.
Somewhere out there has to be an activist group who realizes the folly of relying on politicians. Is anyone getting ready to organize a national "NO ICE HERE" day of protest? My gut and my hopes tell me turnout at NO ICE HERE rallies around the country would dwarf any of the previous national rallies.
JVL makes an elegant comparison to and analogy with Gettysburg, but the truth is there’s no escaping the analogy to the Third Reich. The people in Minnesota didn’t choose to fight but THE GOP’s goons sure did and they knew exactly what they wanted to do. And yes, please, please start calling them the GOP’s goons- they could end this anytime they wanted.
The people of MN are more like the heroes of 9/11 (I know- no happy ending, but they tried.). They found themselves confronted by danger, hatred and cruelty, got organized and pushed back, fought back, got peppered sprayed and beaten, got shot at and killed in defense of their neighbors and their community. The GOP stood back and let it happen., lied to justify their violence, and smeared the people they murdered. Snyder is right- and they are the monsters among us.
And JVL couldn’t be more right about the Dems- get out there, be seen, be heard, record and report on the terrorists in masks.
This does seem to be a possible tide-turning moment, but there have been 100 before. Yet, a public execution of a VA nurse as he was held down by 5 men in masks is a 😱. It also upsets the 2nd amendment folks.
Trump, who has TACO before, is savvy enough to realize that the lies and disinformation are not working. His invasion is stuck on the beach. Its leaders are incompetent, the troops are untrained, and the mission is lost.
Congress seems to feel the pressure. Millions are leaning on every Democrat, and some Republicans don’t want this fight. Without DHS, Trump loses the ability to send troops to help them. The free states will remain free.
Keep the pressure on. Write, call, stand out in the cold, take pictures, hold signs, blow whistles.
Not that it's related at all, but Gettysburg is named after the Getty family - the one running Getty Images. They used to own the joint.
As I said earlier, the minions of DJT will move the goalposts. Now it is the protesters who are impeding law enforcement. Now it is Pretti (remember his name) had a gun and ICE may have prevented a massacre. Now it is ICE being the victim. Now it is just obey and you won't be shot. The latter is the reasoning of my MAGA friends......As Sam has noted, it is time for Democratic Senators to stand up, be creative and think outside the box. Perhaps a good first step would be to show up in MPLS, perhaps outside the Whipple building where ICE is holed up. Earlier Angie Craig, ( candidate for Tina Smith's Senate seat) and Ilhan Omar tried this but were rebuffed. There would be strength in numbers plus the publicity. Remember John Lewis and the Petit bridge? By the way, any Republicans would be welcomed instead of "having concerns".
Don't hold your breath waiting for leadership from current democratic politicians. I had hoped some of those thinking of running in 2028 would step up, but in my 78 years on this earth the democrats have broken my heart too many times to count. Even my own governor -- JB Pritzker -- who fought ICE in Chicago with legal action and won -- is failing to seize the moment.
I saw where Mark Kelly put out a video: don't let them lie to you. Believe your eyes.
Trump wanting to get rid of elections should be the beginning of his impeachment. They are the cornerstone of our democracy. That alone should get the votes to impeach him if the legislators are doing their jobs and not just protecting their turf.
I'd rather go through another federal shutdown than fund Homeland Security. Also, any senator or rep who does not fly to MN and dare ICE to attack should be thrown out of office.