Absolutely. While the Iraq war vote was the big issue that he used as a wedge against her, on most other issues he was coming at her from her right, especially on health care. The ACA far more greatly resembled her position in the primary than his own.
In this conversation, I think something rather significant is being ignored and that was Ross Perot. Clinton only won on a plurality and It strikes me that the Perot coalition has more to do with the Trumpist mentality than it does anything else.
From my point of recollection, I think that the low point for the democratic party as a whole was the Rainbow coalition period where the party could not agree on lunch. It's interesting to see how it evolved into Clinton's second term after the Gingrich attempts to derail him. The most amusing parts being the House attempts to get rid of him over sex scandals where republican after republican was forced to resign for the same stuff.
SheтАЩs not as liberal as Bernie/AOC. Those two are, by American standards, bordering on crazy. He can hold a Senate seat in Vermont and she can hold a D+30 House district fine, but either of them is DOA in a statewide election inтАж generously, 30 states. But the real daylight on positions between Bernie and Hillary in 2016 was a lot less than most Berniecrats thought. SheтАЩs less combative in her rhetoric than he is, but she was only less liberal than him in that she pragmatically proposes to meet progressive goals in a way that can actually pass Congress and work in real world implementation. Almost all of their actual goals only differ in degree.
Hillary was honestly probably left of even Obama
Absolutely. While the Iraq war vote was the big issue that he used as a wedge against her, on most other issues he was coming at her from her right, especially on health care. The ACA far more greatly resembled her position in the primary than his own.
In this conversation, I think something rather significant is being ignored and that was Ross Perot. Clinton only won on a plurality and It strikes me that the Perot coalition has more to do with the Trumpist mentality than it does anything else.
From my point of recollection, I think that the low point for the democratic party as a whole was the Rainbow coalition period where the party could not agree on lunch. It's interesting to see how it evolved into Clinton's second term after the Gingrich attempts to derail him. The most amusing parts being the House attempts to get rid of him over sex scandals where republican after republican was forced to resign for the same stuff.
What's still funny with it is despite that, they're both still well in the centrist to center-left space.
SheтАЩs not as liberal as Bernie/AOC. Those two are, by American standards, bordering on crazy. He can hold a Senate seat in Vermont and she can hold a D+30 House district fine, but either of them is DOA in a statewide election inтАж generously, 30 states. But the real daylight on positions between Bernie and Hillary in 2016 was a lot less than most Berniecrats thought. SheтАЩs less combative in her rhetoric than he is, but she was only less liberal than him in that she pragmatically proposes to meet progressive goals in a way that can actually pass Congress and work in real world implementation. Almost all of their actual goals only differ in degree.