That might only be because it's probably the smallest academy with the fewest seats available. I couldn't comment on that with the lack of knowledge I have about the academies as a whole and their standards as I'm a ROTC grad, not a "ring knocker" as they say. I just know that the academies generally produce the snobbiest officers, espec…
That might only be because it's probably the smallest academy with the fewest seats available. I couldn't comment on that with the lack of knowledge I have about the academies as a whole and their standards as I'm a ROTC grad, not a "ring knocker" as they say. I just know that the academies generally produce the snobbiest officers, especially if they're either pilots or former lacrosse/rugby/football players (or both).
People are, by and large, ignorant of the existence of the USMMA (United States Merchant Marine Academy) located in Kings Point on Long Island. It is a service academy that educate/trains people for positions as merchant marine officers (and you can also get a naval commision through there). It is, I think, even smaller than the USCG Academy.
I tried to get into the service academies (would have accepted any one) but did not have the political connections to get the congressional appointment. I was offered a spot at the USMMA (probably because few people apply for it because few know it exists) but did not take it. Still not sure if that was a mistake or not. Did not really see myself as a mate on a merchant ship.
One of my civilian supervisors at KAPL was a grad.
USMMA kindly referred to us over at SUNY Maritime on the other side of the Long Island Sound as "the bridge trolls" haha. At the end of the day, we had more freedom on/off campus and would leave college with the exact same credentials/commissions if we wanted to. We'd commission some 150+ "strategic sealift officers" (as they're now known) each year back in '13. Not sure what the numbers are now.
That's interesting. The two best managers I ever had were Air Force and Naval academy graduates. Maybe the snobbiness disappears in the private sector.
Probably more evident in the services themselves, like inside the officer's mess/wardroom and what not. Also probably better than run-of-the-mill civvie managers used to far less stressful workloads by comparison.
Was the Air Force academy dude/gal super-religious?
The guy didn't give off that vibe. He worked so hard to get the little branch I helped start up really get going. There was a lot of chaos going on in our business during those years, but he was always so squared away and positive. A total pro.
That might only be because it's probably the smallest academy with the fewest seats available. I couldn't comment on that with the lack of knowledge I have about the academies as a whole and their standards as I'm a ROTC grad, not a "ring knocker" as they say. I just know that the academies generally produce the snobbiest officers, especially if they're either pilots or former lacrosse/rugby/football players (or both).
People are, by and large, ignorant of the existence of the USMMA (United States Merchant Marine Academy) located in Kings Point on Long Island. It is a service academy that educate/trains people for positions as merchant marine officers (and you can also get a naval commision through there). It is, I think, even smaller than the USCG Academy.
I tried to get into the service academies (would have accepted any one) but did not have the political connections to get the congressional appointment. I was offered a spot at the USMMA (probably because few people apply for it because few know it exists) but did not take it. Still not sure if that was a mistake or not. Did not really see myself as a mate on a merchant ship.
One of my civilian supervisors at KAPL was a grad.
USMMA kindly referred to us over at SUNY Maritime on the other side of the Long Island Sound as "the bridge trolls" haha. At the end of the day, we had more freedom on/off campus and would leave college with the exact same credentials/commissions if we wanted to. We'd commission some 150+ "strategic sealift officers" (as they're now known) each year back in '13. Not sure what the numbers are now.
More info here: https://www.netc.navy.mil/Commands/Naval-Service-Training-Command/NROTC/SSMP/
That must have come in since I was involved, I don't remember it working that way at that time (1979).
The times they are a changin'
That's interesting. The two best managers I ever had were Air Force and Naval academy graduates. Maybe the snobbiness disappears in the private sector.
In the private sector it is not a differentiation that means much.
Probably more evident in the services themselves, like inside the officer's mess/wardroom and what not. Also probably better than run-of-the-mill civvie managers used to far less stressful workloads by comparison.
Was the Air Force academy dude/gal super-religious?
The guy didn't give off that vibe. He worked so hard to get the little branch I helped start up really get going. There was a lot of chaos going on in our business during those years, but he was always so squared away and positive. A total pro.
Ask him about religiosity at the academy sometime, you'll probably hear stories.