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Deirdre Browner's avatar

The whole chain of events was started by Oct 7th and is proving to be a serious miscalculation on the part of Iran. Whether this proves ultimately to be a mistake by Israel, which is still a Jewish state in the middle of a sea of Arab states, is a question that won't be answered for years. I'm in the camp of this was not our war and Trump's ego and need to be seen as a tough guy made him ripe for manipulation by Netanyahu. The most frightening thing is what this tells me about the next 3 plus years under this administration and how pliable our weak president will be to malign influences. I still do not understand how people could have thought this was a good idea. I'm with JVL on good luck America. We will need it.

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Parrhizzia's avatar

This is correct! It ALL started on Oct 7 - there is no history before Oct 7!

Nothing that Israel ever did could possibly justify what Hamas did on Oct 7, but everything Israel has done, both before and after Oct 7 is fully justified, post-hoc, by Oct 7.

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Deirdre Browner's avatar

I think that is a deliberate misread of what I was trying to say. The roots of the ongoing issues in the Middle East are too complicated for this space, but to clarify, I am not a big fan of Netanyahu and the treatment of Palestinians in Gaza is horrifying. However, Iran has long funded Hamas as a proxy to attack Israel, and Hamas' attack on Oct 7th has led to Israel's leveling of Gaza and attacks on Hezbollah, Lebanon, and Syria. Israel will likely become a pariah in a de-stabilized Middle East. I honestly think no one wins here and disagree with those saying that Trump did the right thing.

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Parrhizzia's avatar

“The whole chain of events was started by Oct 7th”

I deliberately misread that? My bad.

Just one additional counterpoint: it’s not complicated. It has been bloody, violent, disingenuous, but never complicated.

Complicated is just a word used to obfuscate history, and allow for the atrocities to continue.

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