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Ryan Lentz's avatar

I know these are not typical times, haven't been for near a decade, but I had come to expect and mostly appreciate the usual sober and realistic commentary and journalism on The Bulwark. However the last several days this platform has turned into the literal hair-on-fire-sky-is-falling freakout show! Basically EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE has predicted doomsday and demanded Biden retire immediately. I understand it's not looking good however any decisions have to be reasoned and based on something other than the political-class talking heads and their know-it-all assumptions... most people are NOT even politically engaged right now... from Kristol and Egger to Charen and Stoddard and Miller and what seems like every editorial board... all have crystal balls apparently.... I'll tell you this there isn't any other dem out there who can step in now and make any of you feel better about the presidential election! Take a breath and let's see some data and maybe, just maybe enough Americans will realize that unless they want a permanent theocracy governed by the fine-for-me but not-for-thee zealots then go with the sleepy old man who will at least have adults guiding us and not try and burn it all down!! Smh...

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Mary's avatar

Then we might as well give up right now, because there is absolutely no reason to think Biden will win in November. He was hanging by a thread before the debate. Maybe a miracle will happen—the polls will turn in his favor. Maybe he’ll surpass expectations with the Stephanopolis interview. Until that happens, hair will be on fire, yes. Do not ask us to be satisfied with losing.

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Ryan Lentz's avatar

No reason to think any other dem can step in and win either.... so what's the plan??

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Mary's avatar

We have elected officials to handle times like these. It’s not my job or yours to come up with “the plan”. Our job is to support the party and vote. Hopefully we will have a candidate that can actually win.

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E2's avatar

Everyone here *is* going with Biden, if he is on the ballot in November. It's the peckerwoods in the swing states that we're worried about.

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Ryan Lentz's avatar

Right but who are those peckerwoods going for as a substitute.....??

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David Hormell's avatar

Many of those peckerwoods that voted for Joe in 20 are going to stay home this year if Joe is on the ballot. Also hurting down ballot candidates.

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Ryan Lentz's avatar

I don't disagree but who is the answer then??? 🤔 bc idk there is a definitive one....

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David Hormell's avatar

I honestly believe there is enough dislike/hatred for Trump it won't make any difference if the person chosen can walk and chew gum. Oh and also is able to do an average or a little above job talking and answering questions without a teleprompter.

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