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Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

"Poisoning the blood"

"Normie" Republicans tell themselves this rhetoric is about drug runners. Meanwhile, every species of right-wing extremist feels confirmed in the rightness of their hate and their fanaticism goes up a few more degrees.

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Michael's avatar

I wonder if the poll results would change if you somehow made it clear that the same language was used - almost verbatim - by Nazi Germany and other fascists of that era. Would it matter to voters?

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SandyG's avatar

When I first read about "vermin", I sent the comments to my conservative friend who is a Jew. I explained to him that dehumanizing the outgroup is what fuels any genocide that's been committed since the term was invented on 1944 based on Nazi atrocities. It was certainly how the Nazi's regarded Jews. They were less than human. That makes it easy for other humans to kill them.

I don't remember his response, or if I got one. But it certainly wasn't outrage. His belief, from listening to Dennis Prager for three decades, that the Left is destroying the American Experiment makes that impossible.

So I think the answer to your question is no.

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Polly Oberosler's avatar

No. Nothing matters. My husband asked the other day what I was getting at the store. I told him I was going to look for that snake oil people are buying...I couldn't find any as the shelves were empty.

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Sumi Ink ЁЯЗиЁЯЗж's avatar

Probably not. People almost never think of themselves as the bad guys. "It may sound similar but we're different. We're the good guys."

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JF's avatar

тАЬNormie" Republicans tell themselves this rhetoric is about drug runnersтАЭ . . .

Right before they eagerly hire them, for substandard cash wages, under the table.

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JMFK's avatar

I suspect most of these "Normie" R's are descended from Scottish, Irish, German, Italian, Polish, etc. immigrants who came from sh*thole countries and poisoned America's blood in past generations.

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Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

I've tried shaming my Trumpy neighbors by reminding them of this history, but imaginatively entering the past isn't in their skill set.

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Polly Oberosler's avatar

What is this country's dumbed down skill set to begin with?

The whole thing is Milgram shock experiment in a nutshell and it really did happen and people eventually "shocked" people to death in theory, for not knowing the answer.

Trump had it down. Wouldn't he be something if he did what he is capable of for real. Ain't holding my breath there.

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SandyG's avatar

What is he capable of besides being a con man who knows his marks?

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Polly Oberosler's avatar

Not much other than he has learned to twist everything and people will follow.

Sickens me.

I did read tonight the Blaze is calling him out on covid lies. 4 years ago it may have been encouraging, now it will be overlooked or forgotten tomorrow. He will make sure of it.

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Mary's avatar

тАЬImaginatively entering the past isnтАЩt in their skill set.тАЭ ЁЯШВЁЯСК

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

My father in law is second generation Polish with a Polish AF last name and he's Trumpy as can be. I always want to shake him and say "you know they're coming for you after the brown people are all gone, right?" It's insane.

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SandyG's avatar

Brilliant!

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JMFK's avatar

My Catholic grandparents immigrated from Poland before WW1. I sometimes point out to people that when the KKK had their million hood march on Washington in the 1920's they were demonstrating against Blacks, Catholics, Jews, and immigrants - so I am the grandson of people who qualified for their hatred on 2 out of 4 counts.

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JF's avatar

According to Alexander Vindman, Russian immigrants are full Trumpy. Full authoritarianism is their comfort zone. Makes me wonder why they left Mother Russia?

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max skinner's avatar

My Russian history professor pointed out that Russians, whether in the Czarist times or the Soviet times, expect authoritarianism. Secret police suppress dissent during both eras. He said that was why communism very quickly turned into Stalinism. Note: this was in the olden days when the Soviets still held power. The end of the regime was still many years away.

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Cynthia K's avatar

Money. That's why.

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SandyG's avatar

Ah, they're from the oligarch class.

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

It's strange that they don't connect our prosperity to our stable and open system of government, but I guess that shouldn't surprise me.

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JF's avatar

YouтАЩre probably right. Oligarchs in Russia have a lock on scams, but the U.S. is increasingly fertile ground. And thatтАЩs no exaggeration.

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Cynthia K's avatar

Bingo!

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Tim Coffey's avatar

Funny how this works, isn't it? Conservatives used to say that words had consequences. Now they ignore Trump's words or downplay them like Mike "Moses" Johnson.

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Sumi Ink ЁЯЗиЁЯЗж's avatar

There was also a time when you could actually call them "conservatives" and it meant something. Now they are reactionaries in the grip of a personality cult.

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