Until RFKjr and the entire Trump/Vance administration are flushed out of the White House, I ignore any health directives coming from the federal government.
Altho I don't have time to read every word, and I'm old enough that I've had (and get) just about every vaccine there is, I still very much appreciate Jonathan's in-depth articles.
Jonathan, Excellent reporting, great news. Anytime we get an impediment to RFK'S agenda is a victory for our kids. Go ahead and work it up to the Supreme Court, that should take a year or two. Plenty can happen in that time, more people will likely see how dangerous Kennedy is. And to think, we have Senator Cassidy to thank for this. He should be publicly ridiculed for his dereliction and his cowardice, along with the rest of his pathetic Republican buddies.
Thank you for keeping RFK Jr. and vaccines in the public eye -- even if it is limited audience and maybe "preaching to the choir". We too, need reminders and wake-up calls, at least to prioritize. There are so many issues that we must attend to and find ways to resist, reform and change -- but I've always thought that RFK was the most immediately dangerous to our populace.
It is sad, if not absurd, that we are reduced to relishing pushback from the administration, that is based only because polls that say Trump is losing votes -- because a majority (phew!) of people are pro-vaccines.
I received the (new Sabin) polio vaccine in elementary school. I remember lining up in the auditorium of our school to receive it by way of a sugar cube. But until RFK Jr. started his insane campaign against vaccination, I hadn't realized how close I was to being infected by polio and therefore a part of the epidemic. I don't remember being kept from the playground, or birthday parties. We did have a friend who had polio, which affected his eyes. How scary were the pictures of a lifetime in an iron-lung! But that was far away from our lives -- I didn't connect it, in memory, with the dangers and ease of being one of those until now. What we took for granted! A government that was concerned with its citizen's health and well-being.
Next, we can hope that the polls move against the administration because of the tearful testimony from individuals who have diseases that have had research cut or denied, whose experimental treatments have been terminated, and those who in the future face serious illnesses that have not been studied or treatments for them designed.
If you add up over the coming years the lost lives from lack of currently existing vaccines as well as all the avenues of promising research he's cutting off, RFK Jr. may very well prove to be the greatest mass murderer in human history. Worse than Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot...you name it.
Let us remember that anti vaxers are like MAGA; a small minority. All we need to do is show up and vote all GOP out. The women, mothers, minorities and LBGTQ see the SAVE bill and the decrease in voting rights, their children's health and the decrease in the support for women's health. Things will change unless our corrupt SCOTUS permits ICE at the polls and Texas and other so called red states help cheat. Trump wants Paxton right where he is to cheat in Texas - Bondi doesn't care. Good ole Cruz, Hawley, Graham, Grassley, Jordan, Roy and Biggs do nothing in their role as Judicial Committee law enforcers because they are insurrectionists on the Trump payroll. Hawley is guilty of misusing campaign funds but Trump destroyed the FEC as he corrupted the whole government . Corruption rules -but only if we let it. There are some corrupt and pedophile Dems too that need to be removed as well. We need help finding the rotten apples - we know many.
I haven’t cared much for organized medicine, the AMA and their ilk always seem to be focused on the wrong things in my opinion, but AAP has been doing tremendous work over the past year. I thought this lawsuit would be just tilting at windmills but they evidently did their homework and found these procedural specifications written down in the rulebooks RFK Jr. has surely never read, constructing a case that has a real chance.
I wonder if there's something here that can help with the question of how “norms” that many areas of government relied on pre-Trump can be codified into laws and rules that are enforceable through the justice system.
Many thanks to this judge and all the other judges that respect the law. Every win against this administration is worthy of a celebration! Let's keep it up.
Even here in Florida the likely Republican (Trump endorsed) nominee for Governor has distanced himself from the anti-vax agenda of Governor DeSantis.
Trump's support of RFK is conditioned solely on RFK being attacked by people Trump sees as his enemies and not because he has any real interest in the vaccine issue.
The judge who made this ruling has given reasonable people a platform to discuss how Kennedy is running the DHHS and called for clarification about the intentions of the law and norms that apply to the procedural process for promulgation of policy.
I seriously doubt that higher courts will want to try and micromanage executive powers here but the process will highlight the questionable decision making and irrationality of Kennedy's judgment. In the end the courts will say that they the courts can't stop stupid from doing what stupid does.
Until RFKjr and the entire Trump/Vance administration are flushed out of the White House, I ignore any health directives coming from the federal government.
Altho I don't have time to read every word, and I'm old enough that I've had (and get) just about every vaccine there is, I still very much appreciate Jonathan's in-depth articles.
This gives Murphy's Law a positive spin!
Jonathan, Excellent reporting, great news. Anytime we get an impediment to RFK'S agenda is a victory for our kids. Go ahead and work it up to the Supreme Court, that should take a year or two. Plenty can happen in that time, more people will likely see how dangerous Kennedy is. And to think, we have Senator Cassidy to thank for this. He should be publicly ridiculed for his dereliction and his cowardice, along with the rest of his pathetic Republican buddies.
Thank you for keeping RFK Jr. and vaccines in the public eye -- even if it is limited audience and maybe "preaching to the choir". We too, need reminders and wake-up calls, at least to prioritize. There are so many issues that we must attend to and find ways to resist, reform and change -- but I've always thought that RFK was the most immediately dangerous to our populace.
It is sad, if not absurd, that we are reduced to relishing pushback from the administration, that is based only because polls that say Trump is losing votes -- because a majority (phew!) of people are pro-vaccines.
I received the (new Sabin) polio vaccine in elementary school. I remember lining up in the auditorium of our school to receive it by way of a sugar cube. But until RFK Jr. started his insane campaign against vaccination, I hadn't realized how close I was to being infected by polio and therefore a part of the epidemic. I don't remember being kept from the playground, or birthday parties. We did have a friend who had polio, which affected his eyes. How scary were the pictures of a lifetime in an iron-lung! But that was far away from our lives -- I didn't connect it, in memory, with the dangers and ease of being one of those until now. What we took for granted! A government that was concerned with its citizen's health and well-being.
Next, we can hope that the polls move against the administration because of the tearful testimony from individuals who have diseases that have had research cut or denied, whose experimental treatments have been terminated, and those who in the future face serious illnesses that have not been studied or treatments for them designed.
I clicked over to Malone’s Substack to read the comments. Hoo boy!
RFK,jr. needs to go. Soon.
RFK jr is a fraud plain and simple.
Louisiana physician . Oxymoron.?
This is just sickening (pun intended).
If you add up over the coming years the lost lives from lack of currently existing vaccines as well as all the avenues of promising research he's cutting off, RFK Jr. may very well prove to be the greatest mass murderer in human history. Worse than Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot...you name it.
Let us remember that anti vaxers are like MAGA; a small minority. All we need to do is show up and vote all GOP out. The women, mothers, minorities and LBGTQ see the SAVE bill and the decrease in voting rights, their children's health and the decrease in the support for women's health. Things will change unless our corrupt SCOTUS permits ICE at the polls and Texas and other so called red states help cheat. Trump wants Paxton right where he is to cheat in Texas - Bondi doesn't care. Good ole Cruz, Hawley, Graham, Grassley, Jordan, Roy and Biggs do nothing in their role as Judicial Committee law enforcers because they are insurrectionists on the Trump payroll. Hawley is guilty of misusing campaign funds but Trump destroyed the FEC as he corrupted the whole government . Corruption rules -but only if we let it. There are some corrupt and pedophile Dems too that need to be removed as well. We need help finding the rotten apples - we know many.
I haven’t cared much for organized medicine, the AMA and their ilk always seem to be focused on the wrong things in my opinion, but AAP has been doing tremendous work over the past year. I thought this lawsuit would be just tilting at windmills but they evidently did their homework and found these procedural specifications written down in the rulebooks RFK Jr. has surely never read, constructing a case that has a real chance.
I wonder if there's something here that can help with the question of how “norms” that many areas of government relied on pre-Trump can be codified into laws and rules that are enforceable through the justice system.
when the ruling came out, I was genuinely happy. I'm sure it will get appealed. if it get to the supreme Court. it will likely get overturned.
the people who are against vaccines, are ignorant. They truly don't care if our children, live or die.
I doubt any voter who would vote for trump, wouldn't vote for him do to Kennedy's actions against vaccines.
Many thanks to this judge and all the other judges that respect the law. Every win against this administration is worthy of a celebration! Let's keep it up.
Even here in Florida the likely Republican (Trump endorsed) nominee for Governor has distanced himself from the anti-vax agenda of Governor DeSantis.
Trump's support of RFK is conditioned solely on RFK being attacked by people Trump sees as his enemies and not because he has any real interest in the vaccine issue.
The judge who made this ruling has given reasonable people a platform to discuss how Kennedy is running the DHHS and called for clarification about the intentions of the law and norms that apply to the procedural process for promulgation of policy.
I seriously doubt that higher courts will want to try and micromanage executive powers here but the process will highlight the questionable decision making and irrationality of Kennedy's judgment. In the end the courts will say that they the courts can't stop stupid from doing what stupid does.