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Patrick Flannery's avatar

I think the audience for the no-escalation policy is China. As long as China sees the US as behaving with restraint, it may refrain from acting to support Russia and rescue it from this mess. That leaves the Russians facing an extended quagmire that will ultimately leave them without the ability to project power if they don't reverse course. However we should be sending Zelenskyy literally every weapon he asks for and cutting off Russian oil sales, whatever the cost.

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R Mercer's avatar

WRT: Escalation

Clarity in this regard is a good thing--PROVIDED that if you say something, when the time comes you do that thing. We do not need or want red lines that aren't actually red lines.

This means that there needs to be agreement and commitment on the part of those involved (which means all NATO partners--which also in practice means popular support in NATO nations for such action).

This essentially needs to be pre-approved, meaning that is as soon as X happens, Y happens in response in short order (hours at the most).

You are also going to need to be prepared for the inevitable counter-escalation--because at this point Putin is stuck and he doesn't have much choice but to counter-escalate if he has any hope of personal survival.

Here is the reality of the situation if you get involved in this escalatory cycle:

Things will continue to escalate up to the point where the military will no longer follow Putin's orders and/or the oligarchs act against him. In other words, the odds of this ending (once is starts) with Putin remaining in power are very low.

He will either be killed in a strike of some kind by NATO forces or the Russian military will mutiny (in which case things in Russia probably get pretty ugly as the security services and the military go at each other), or he will suffer some sort of "medical emergency" and die/ be removed.

At this point, the only acceptable endgame is either regime change in Russia and the withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine or some deal that the Ukrainians, themselves, make with Russia, with the support of NATO... or the (seemingly to me) unlikely outcome of a total Russian military victory and the Russians dictating the outcome.

I do not see the last as a high probability outcome at this point.

The BIG question: How far will the escalation go before Putin is out?

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