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Thank you, very worthwhile discussion. About red lines - you both agree we need more public definition and clarity to get the attention of voters and - equally or even more importantly - people and organizations with influence (business, religious, academic, political, cultural). Bulwark, please do more articles and podcasts that help bring definition, clarity, and urgency to red lines and actions and events that cross and threaten to cross them.

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