In last night's TNB, Sarah was clearly concerned that the NYC Indictment will make trump the GOP nominee, and that he could very well win the general election because of it. While I understand her angst, I think it's misplaced.
Which trump voter or elected GOP official (even "elite" and "normies") would have reacted differently if the fir…
In last night's TNB, Sarah was clearly concerned that the NYC Indictment will make trump the GOP nominee, and that he could very well win the general election because of it. While I understand her angst, I think it's misplaced.
Which trump voter or elected GOP official (even "elite" and "normies") would have reacted differently if the first Indictment had been the Jan 6 case, or the Documents case, or even the GA State case? These people simply do not want accountability for their dear leader. Any Indictment would have garnered the same response and reaction. Which one of them was going to say, "We need to let the judicial process play out, wait to see the evidence, before rushing to judgement"?
Sarah appears to believe that a stronger, more "serious" case would have somehow appealed to reason, all evidence from the past 7-8 years to the contrary. Most of trump's supporters (voters and elected officials) operate on a visceral level, while the rest of them operate on a cynical level (as in "we're held hostage by our base" or "we can overlook the noise because we want to gain and keep power for our side").
Lastly, while I have great sympathy for the genuine concern that Sarah feels for our nation, the fact remains that if trump is re-elected, it isn't on the Democrats for that outcome. Democrats have not methodically weaponized the judicial process - they have not exerted sway over it. Some might cheer the fact that Accountability is finally at hand, in some small measure so far, but to shy away from it would indeed be playing politics. It's more than mere words when said "without fear or favor" - it is the foundation of principles that our nation must embrace.
I think part of my fatigue is the insistence that we always try to make things easier for the GOP to accept and move on with. What about the rest of the country who is so sick and tired of always being one election away from the collapse of our democracy? Should we have asked Rosa Parks to give up her seat, because to do otherwise would spark civil unrest? Should we have insisted that LBJ not work so assiduously to pass the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Acts, because it would cost the Democrats the South for generations to come? Of course not. So why put the burden for what the GOP has wrought squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats, asking us to somehow divine how to lead them safely back from the brink?
I'm all for doing what we can to change this toxic environment, except when it requires us to turn our back on our core principles, in the futile hope that the GOP will finally do what's best for our country. The only ones I see willing to do that are former Republicans and Never-Trumpers. Can we all agree that our country would be in far better shape today if the Republican Party had not sacrificed their core principles at the altar of trump? Sometimes we, as people, and we, as a nation, get to the point of ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY. I'm there.
Well written MM! My two-cents are that I am in agreement with Judge Luttig. His feeling was also that changes have to come from the Republican Party. Their leaders need to tell the truth. It is not the Democrats’ problem. If Republicans lose and continue to lose, it’s on them. What our legislative representatives, Independent, Democratic, or Republican need to do is to uphold the rule of law, the equality of all, listen to the people, and tell the truth.
If Rs are so terrified of ultimately powerless MAGAs and a Trump, think how they'd react with a full blown Hitler or even a South American or African dictator. Nice to know who's going to sell out the country when the "V" armies come.
Steve Schmidt talked in one of his columns about an Atlantic magazine article from the late 30’s (by I think Dorothy Thompson??) that talked about spotting the Nazis at a dinner party with you, etc. The article was brilliant, exquisite and breathtaking. Go read it! I will NEVER criticize Germans again for their stupidity and cowardice. I have now seen here in the good old USA.
I too am beyond sick of being told that Democrats are responsible for despicable Republican behaviors - as if they were not adults with the power to exercise their own moral agency. At least now I've lived long enough to see Trump being referred to in a way I have been awaiting for decades, i.e as "the Defendent".
I love Sarah with all of my heart and would love to meet her and be her friend and hold her hand when she’s upset. That said, I found her reaction last night inexplicable. Even she could not clearly articulate why she was so unhappy. I have to believe it’s because there are no guarantees in any criminal trial and I wonder if she’s watched too many crime shows.
Even though I felt like Amanda was chewing everybody out (as she is wont to do), were she and Bill not on last night I’d have had to leave the Zoom.
I feel like she spends so much time talking to Trumpers in focus groups it gives her a bit of warped perspective on what the overall trend in the country is vs what's going on in MAGA land. I feel like people who willing admit to voting for Trump twice are a bit of a self selecting group.
While at the same time, I think it's invaluable that she does. It helps shape what the narrative should be in convincing Independents and more moderate Republicans that voting for GOP candidates will lead us to darker places, at least for now.
I have tremendous respect for Sarah, but I don't agree with her about Trump. It reminds me of Neville Chamberlain not wanting to poke the bear in Hitler. As you said - ENOUGH. Trump was indicted on 34 FELONY accounts. If anything the NY indictment let the pressure out of the balloon. If Justice follows through more indictments are coming. The majority of Americans are sick of Trump, and in 2024 they will not vote for him. As Tom Nichols wrote, expose Trump more and more because Trump is mentally unstable. His mouth overruns his lizard brain to the point he exposes himself as the pathetic Norma Deamond he is.
The more he opens his mouth and posts messages on the internet, the more trouble he will get in. He literally has no impulse control and no one else can control him. His acolytes such as MTG (who outed herself for being a malicious nutcase on 60 Minutes and in interview in NYC yesterday-- she may play well in her adoring Republican Party audiences, creepy exurban Georgia district and political fundraisers but out in the real world she sounds totally insane) and Lindsey Graham etc. will be adding their voices to his and may also be charged with incitement. I hope that the DA and his family are provided with security.
Excellently put. The Republican reaction to even the Jan. 6 or documents case brought first would’ve been identical. If TFG can get by with none of these acts not meeting a day in court, then it becomes de facto for the future that no former President is liable to the rule of law. We do not have “the divine right of kings”; we have a mortal President.
I think there is WAY too much focus on the Trump drama and not enough focus on the fact that Progressive Judge Janet Protasiewicz clobbered former right-wing state Supreme Court justice Dan Kelly by 11 points. Dems came pretty close to flipping that ruby red state sente seat as well. people are not buying what Republicans are selling and I think if they nominate Trump it is going to end in disaster for Republicans.
GOP now has a supermajority and has said they will impeach her (no cause just hate) but there IS a Dem Gov so he could probably reappoint her (I don't know WI law). And perhaps that 10 point lead will make even these cretins think twice. about their performative assholery.
I don’t see this happening. There are GOP members who represent Biden districts, and I expect they’d like to be re-elected. They’d need unanimity for an impeachment and conviction. Even Ohio has some reasonable GOP members amongst our supermajority.
They’ve threatened but the Dem Governor appoints a replacement. Our supermajority threatened our GOP chief justice here in Ohio (she sided with the Dems re: maps) but it was all yapping by the nuts and resulted in a giant bolus of nothing.
Possible but I can't see them trying ot impeach a justice who won by 10 points... especially since that would just result in a new election and an enraged populace who may use the recall mechanism against some of those state senators
I am curious about your comment that polls need to be interpreted. But of course they do. So a person who has no agenda and follows polls needs to separate the wheat from the chaff. Also they need to understand how much confidence we can have in the results.
So experts are useful. Some polls are crafted with questions that are meant to obtain the results that the poll maker wants. This is something that happened with abortion - conservatives believed their own polls and now have learned the abortion is very much supported by voters.
On the need to be interpreted - the '22 midterms had polls showing the red wave. I did see a couple of articles which cast doubt on the polling before the election, but the spin was all red wave coming. Then after the actual counting of actual votes, there was a...but the polls were right, or almost right (margin of error) and some of the polls were manipulated by R's in an attempt to convince voters that R's had a huge win coming. So, how much trust can/should the average person, not adept at interpretation, have in polls which did not call the election results correctly? They are apparently subject to canny manipulation.
Ok let me level set. My son used probability in his workplace (he studied engineering math). He predicts work volume for an insurance company and its call centers. Issues of degree of confidence in results is a constant concern.
Sadly reporters are not experts here. So they just report the news. But a serious numbers person will usually tell the average viewer not to take the polls farther than they should be taken.
Steve Kornacki is one of the better reporters on this issue.
So.... don't worry about the polls. But if you pay attention, look for a genuine expert - and there are experts. Also any poll now is meaningless concerning 2024 - and poll watchers will tell you that. But with 24/7 news - well they need product so the polls get reported.
“Counting” is kind of like “science”. Their motto seems to be “If I don’t understand it, it’s not real”. Except for their electricity, their cell phones, heart surgery etc. That stuff gets a pass, when they need it.
Me too, MM!!! Rosa Parks and LBJ!!! I was 2 years old in 1955, 12 years old in 1965. I vividly remember the 1963 church bombing in Birmingham that killed those four little girls. As a white child in Texas, I saw what the right side of history, morality and yes Christianity, was. History will be just as cruel, and rightly so, to this era. Trump and all his acolytes, from Lindsey Graham on down, should be, and will be, judged for what they are, for what they have said and for what they have done.
I still do not fully comprehend what has happened, especially in my own evangelical Christian world. For every Russell Moore, there are a thousand Franklin Grahams and other such pathetic groupies.Go read what Franklin Graham, who has actually done a lot of good and noble work with Samaritan’s Purse, etc., said about MTG and her 60 Minutes interview. It is insane and incomprehensible to me, and totally divorced from reality. Christianity is NOT this. For those of you who will tell me yes it is, I still say no, despite the clear political evidence at the present time that I am 100% wrong.
God help us in this country when TRUTH does not matter. Looking at you, Fox News, et al….
Well said! (I suspect we will never understand what motivates these people. Stockholm Syndrome. Underdog status. Lack of education or jobs or enough of anything. Inherent meanness and bigotry and racism. All of the above? Don't try to understand the incomprehensible; let's just move beyond it.)
Rick, don’t you sense any squeamishness among your fellow evangelicals (my fellow evangelicals, too)? Am I wish casting? I am sensing a bit of a turn away from Donald Trump that began after January 6. I know you can’t tell that from the media, but this is what I think I am seeing it in real life.
Yes. I’m not an Evangel, but Charlie’s pod yesterday featured Tim Alberta, who has a new article about the Evangel split w/Trump. It may not be permanent, but at the moment, it’s real.
When I think of Jesus, I think of turning the other cheek. Also being disinterested in politics (so render to Ceasar). Whatever good men like Franklin Graham do on occasion, they are in the end far from Christ like. More like Pharisees. But what do I know, I was raised Catholic, and many "christians" see us as the anti-christ.
Rick, we are about the same age. I remember those events of the 60s exactly as you do. I'm so glad that we can look back on that time and be proud of the outcome. Not so sure what future generations will think about the present.
"Christianity is NOT this. For those of you who will tell me yes it is, I still say no, despite the clear political evidence at the present time that I am 100% wrong."
Unfortunately, what you describe is exactly what Christianity has become, in the same way that the Republican Party (whose candidates I have voted for in the past) has become the party of authoritarianism. I think deep down inside you know it, since you say that the clear political evidence shows you're 100% wrong.
What that means is that both Republicans AND Christians need to take their party and faith back from the evil people who have hijacked them. At the very least, Christians need to take a long multi-generational look in the mirror and try to figure out how to get back to the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. Billy Graham must be rolling over in his grave at the thought that his son has been taken over by the devil.
In October of 2016, I was on vacation and doing my laundry. I picked up a copy of Christianity Today to pass the time. In it was a scathing assessment of Trump by the Editor--I think his name was Gallo(?). (It was not the official view of the magazine, since their tax status precluded their taking positions like that.) Briefly, Trump was portrayed as an immoral man, the embodiment of everything scripture stood against, virtually the spawn of Satan. Later on, I tried to find the article to have another look. It was *not* listed on the archive page. I understand that Gallo is no longer editor.
In last night's TNB, Sarah was clearly concerned that the NYC Indictment will make trump the GOP nominee, and that he could very well win the general election because of it. While I understand her angst, I think it's misplaced.
Which trump voter or elected GOP official (even "elite" and "normies") would have reacted differently if the first Indictment had been the Jan 6 case, or the Documents case, or even the GA State case? These people simply do not want accountability for their dear leader. Any Indictment would have garnered the same response and reaction. Which one of them was going to say, "We need to let the judicial process play out, wait to see the evidence, before rushing to judgement"?
Sarah appears to believe that a stronger, more "serious" case would have somehow appealed to reason, all evidence from the past 7-8 years to the contrary. Most of trump's supporters (voters and elected officials) operate on a visceral level, while the rest of them operate on a cynical level (as in "we're held hostage by our base" or "we can overlook the noise because we want to gain and keep power for our side").
Lastly, while I have great sympathy for the genuine concern that Sarah feels for our nation, the fact remains that if trump is re-elected, it isn't on the Democrats for that outcome. Democrats have not methodically weaponized the judicial process - they have not exerted sway over it. Some might cheer the fact that Accountability is finally at hand, in some small measure so far, but to shy away from it would indeed be playing politics. It's more than mere words when said "without fear or favor" - it is the foundation of principles that our nation must embrace.
I think part of my fatigue is the insistence that we always try to make things easier for the GOP to accept and move on with. What about the rest of the country who is so sick and tired of always being one election away from the collapse of our democracy? Should we have asked Rosa Parks to give up her seat, because to do otherwise would spark civil unrest? Should we have insisted that LBJ not work so assiduously to pass the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Acts, because it would cost the Democrats the South for generations to come? Of course not. So why put the burden for what the GOP has wrought squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats, asking us to somehow divine how to lead them safely back from the brink?
I'm all for doing what we can to change this toxic environment, except when it requires us to turn our back on our core principles, in the futile hope that the GOP will finally do what's best for our country. The only ones I see willing to do that are former Republicans and Never-Trumpers. Can we all agree that our country would be in far better shape today if the Republican Party had not sacrificed their core principles at the altar of trump? Sometimes we, as people, and we, as a nation, get to the point of ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY. I'm there.
Well written MM! My two-cents are that I am in agreement with Judge Luttig. His feeling was also that changes have to come from the Republican Party. Their leaders need to tell the truth. It is not the Democrats’ problem. If Republicans lose and continue to lose, it’s on them. What our legislative representatives, Independent, Democratic, or Republican need to do is to uphold the rule of law, the equality of all, listen to the people, and tell the truth.
You're not alone.
Thank you, Moose's Mom. This is the best, clearest statement of how I feel about politics today that I have ever read.
If Rs are so terrified of ultimately powerless MAGAs and a Trump, think how they'd react with a full blown Hitler or even a South American or African dictator. Nice to know who's going to sell out the country when the "V" armies come.
Steve Schmidt talked in one of his columns about an Atlantic magazine article from the late 30’s (by I think Dorothy Thompson??) that talked about spotting the Nazis at a dinner party with you, etc. The article was brilliant, exquisite and breathtaking. Go read it! I will NEVER criticize Germans again for their stupidity and cowardice. I have now seen here in the good old USA.
https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/
Thank you! Harpers,1941. It is an amazing piece. At least I had her name right.
You gave me enough good information in your post that Google could sort out the reference!
Wow, this is everything I've felt for years but so much better expressed. Thank you!!
I too am beyond sick of being told that Democrats are responsible for despicable Republican behaviors - as if they were not adults with the power to exercise their own moral agency. At least now I've lived long enough to see Trump being referred to in a way I have been awaiting for decades, i.e as "the Defendent".
I love Sarah with all of my heart and would love to meet her and be her friend and hold her hand when she’s upset. That said, I found her reaction last night inexplicable. Even she could not clearly articulate why she was so unhappy. I have to believe it’s because there are no guarantees in any criminal trial and I wonder if she’s watched too many crime shows.
Even though I felt like Amanda was chewing everybody out (as she is wont to do), were she and Bill not on last night I’d have had to leave the Zoom.
I feel like she spends so much time talking to Trumpers in focus groups it gives her a bit of warped perspective on what the overall trend in the country is vs what's going on in MAGA land. I feel like people who willing admit to voting for Trump twice are a bit of a self selecting group.
While at the same time, I think it's invaluable that she does. It helps shape what the narrative should be in convincing Independents and more moderate Republicans that voting for GOP candidates will lead us to darker places, at least for now.
It’s invaluable for us. It’s clearly damaging her.
True, it is never wrong to do the right thing. Our justice system and code of laws have no meaning if we don't apply them evenly.
I have tremendous respect for Sarah, but I don't agree with her about Trump. It reminds me of Neville Chamberlain not wanting to poke the bear in Hitler. As you said - ENOUGH. Trump was indicted on 34 FELONY accounts. If anything the NY indictment let the pressure out of the balloon. If Justice follows through more indictments are coming. The majority of Americans are sick of Trump, and in 2024 they will not vote for him. As Tom Nichols wrote, expose Trump more and more because Trump is mentally unstable. His mouth overruns his lizard brain to the point he exposes himself as the pathetic Norma Deamond he is.
At this point, I'd suggest that the majority of Americans are just as tired of all the elected Trump apologists and of Trumpism as they are of Trump.
The more he opens his mouth and posts messages on the internet, the more trouble he will get in. He literally has no impulse control and no one else can control him. His acolytes such as MTG (who outed herself for being a malicious nutcase on 60 Minutes and in interview in NYC yesterday-- she may play well in her adoring Republican Party audiences, creepy exurban Georgia district and political fundraisers but out in the real world she sounds totally insane) and Lindsey Graham etc. will be adding their voices to his and may also be charged with incitement. I hope that the DA and his family are provided with security.
Excellently put. The Republican reaction to even the Jan. 6 or documents case brought first would’ve been identical. If TFG can get by with none of these acts not meeting a day in court, then it becomes de facto for the future that no former President is liable to the rule of law. We do not have “the divine right of kings”; we have a mortal President.
I think there is WAY too much focus on the Trump drama and not enough focus on the fact that Progressive Judge Janet Protasiewicz clobbered former right-wing state Supreme Court justice Dan Kelly by 11 points. Dems came pretty close to flipping that ruby red state sente seat as well. people are not buying what Republicans are selling and I think if they nominate Trump it is going to end in disaster for Republicans.
I continue to be amused how the focus on voting only on Election Day keeps costing the Republicans.
Isn’t she still likely to be impeached? Isn’t that going to be the result of the state Senate seat?
GOP now has a supermajority and has said they will impeach her (no cause just hate) but there IS a Dem Gov so he could probably reappoint her (I don't know WI law). And perhaps that 10 point lead will make even these cretins think twice. about their performative assholery.
Even if they can impeach, would they have the votes to convict? If not they’re just flapping their jaws.
https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2023/04/05/knodl-to-win-tight-race-for-senate-seat-securing-republican-supermajority/
This win gives them a 2/3 supermajority in the senate so they can override a veto as well but Dem gov gets to name replacement. Rinse. Repeat.
I don’t see this happening. There are GOP members who represent Biden districts, and I expect they’d like to be re-elected. They’d need unanimity for an impeachment and conviction. Even Ohio has some reasonable GOP members amongst our supermajority.
They’ve threatened but the Dem Governor appoints a replacement. Our supermajority threatened our GOP chief justice here in Ohio (she sided with the Dems re: maps) but it was all yapping by the nuts and resulted in a giant bolus of nothing.
Possible but I can't see them trying ot impeach a justice who won by 10 points... especially since that would just result in a new election and an enraged populace who may use the recall mechanism against some of those state senators
yikes! I would like to hear some commentary on this possibility.
That’s my worry too.
My exuberance last night when I saw Protasiewicz had won, almost cost me my iPad, which flipped onto the floor.
Oddly, once the Manhattan indictment of Trump was announced, I didn’t want to read any of the analysis. I’m fried.
Not odd at all.
Holy crap this is spot on
Some facts
Joe Biden won the 2020 election and is the current president
In August, 2022 the vote in Kansas in favor of abortion rights was won by 18pts.
In November, 2022, the D's added a Senate seat and in the House R's did not gain as many seats as was widely expected
In April, 2023 the Wisconsin Supreme Court election was won by the D candidate by a very wide margin
But! There's a POLL* that shows Biden and Trump neck and neck in an election that's more than a year and a half distant.
There's a focus group of R's who come out swinging for Trump
These are rough times, no doubt about it. But let's not loose our minds, our hope, or forget the progress we are making.
*Polls, to be properly 'understood' apparently need to be interpreted by the experts/priests/shaman; the average person often misinterprets them.
Vote Democrat up and down to re-set our democratic system.
I am curious about your comment that polls need to be interpreted. But of course they do. So a person who has no agenda and follows polls needs to separate the wheat from the chaff. Also they need to understand how much confidence we can have in the results.
So experts are useful. Some polls are crafted with questions that are meant to obtain the results that the poll maker wants. This is something that happened with abortion - conservatives believed their own polls and now have learned the abortion is very much supported by voters.
On the need to be interpreted - the '22 midterms had polls showing the red wave. I did see a couple of articles which cast doubt on the polling before the election, but the spin was all red wave coming. Then after the actual counting of actual votes, there was a...but the polls were right, or almost right (margin of error) and some of the polls were manipulated by R's in an attempt to convince voters that R's had a huge win coming. So, how much trust can/should the average person, not adept at interpretation, have in polls which did not call the election results correctly? They are apparently subject to canny manipulation.
Ok let me level set. My son used probability in his workplace (he studied engineering math). He predicts work volume for an insurance company and its call centers. Issues of degree of confidence in results is a constant concern.
Sadly reporters are not experts here. So they just report the news. But a serious numbers person will usually tell the average viewer not to take the polls farther than they should be taken.
Steve Kornacki is one of the better reporters on this issue.
So.... don't worry about the polls. But if you pay attention, look for a genuine expert - and there are experts. Also any poll now is meaningless concerning 2024 - and poll watchers will tell you that. But with 24/7 news - well they need product so the polls get reported.
They even want us to turn our backs on the mathematical principle known as "counting."
“Counting” is kind of like “science”. Their motto seems to be “If I don’t understand it, it’s not real”. Except for their electricity, their cell phones, heart surgery etc. That stuff gets a pass, when they need it.
Yes! I agree with you 1000%!
Me too, MM!!! Rosa Parks and LBJ!!! I was 2 years old in 1955, 12 years old in 1965. I vividly remember the 1963 church bombing in Birmingham that killed those four little girls. As a white child in Texas, I saw what the right side of history, morality and yes Christianity, was. History will be just as cruel, and rightly so, to this era. Trump and all his acolytes, from Lindsey Graham on down, should be, and will be, judged for what they are, for what they have said and for what they have done.
I still do not fully comprehend what has happened, especially in my own evangelical Christian world. For every Russell Moore, there are a thousand Franklin Grahams and other such pathetic groupies.Go read what Franklin Graham, who has actually done a lot of good and noble work with Samaritan’s Purse, etc., said about MTG and her 60 Minutes interview. It is insane and incomprehensible to me, and totally divorced from reality. Christianity is NOT this. For those of you who will tell me yes it is, I still say no, despite the clear political evidence at the present time that I am 100% wrong.
God help us in this country when TRUTH does not matter. Looking at you, Fox News, et al….
Well said! (I suspect we will never understand what motivates these people. Stockholm Syndrome. Underdog status. Lack of education or jobs or enough of anything. Inherent meanness and bigotry and racism. All of the above? Don't try to understand the incomprehensible; let's just move beyond it.)
Trump was on TV. They believe in his persona. TV is reality to some folks.
I do think that's a factor.
The only thing missing from Lindsey Faye Graham's performances is the mascara running his face.
Rick, don’t you sense any squeamishness among your fellow evangelicals (my fellow evangelicals, too)? Am I wish casting? I am sensing a bit of a turn away from Donald Trump that began after January 6. I know you can’t tell that from the media, but this is what I think I am seeing it in real life.
Yes. I’m not an Evangel, but Charlie’s pod yesterday featured Tim Alberta, who has a new article about the Evangel split w/Trump. It may not be permanent, but at the moment, it’s real.
When I think of Jesus, I think of turning the other cheek. Also being disinterested in politics (so render to Ceasar). Whatever good men like Franklin Graham do on occasion, they are in the end far from Christ like. More like Pharisees. But what do I know, I was raised Catholic, and many "christians" see us as the anti-christ.
Rick, we are about the same age. I remember those events of the 60s exactly as you do. I'm so glad that we can look back on that time and be proud of the outcome. Not so sure what future generations will think about the present.
"Christianity is NOT this. For those of you who will tell me yes it is, I still say no, despite the clear political evidence at the present time that I am 100% wrong."
Unfortunately, what you describe is exactly what Christianity has become, in the same way that the Republican Party (whose candidates I have voted for in the past) has become the party of authoritarianism. I think deep down inside you know it, since you say that the clear political evidence shows you're 100% wrong.
What that means is that both Republicans AND Christians need to take their party and faith back from the evil people who have hijacked them. At the very least, Christians need to take a long multi-generational look in the mirror and try to figure out how to get back to the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. Billy Graham must be rolling over in his grave at the thought that his son has been taken over by the devil.
It's imperative to vote Democrat for the foreseeable future. True Christianity will survive, but no guarantee on democracy.
oh well done
In October of 2016, I was on vacation and doing my laundry. I picked up a copy of Christianity Today to pass the time. In it was a scathing assessment of Trump by the Editor--I think his name was Gallo(?). (It was not the official view of the magazine, since their tax status precluded their taking positions like that.) Briefly, Trump was portrayed as an immoral man, the embodiment of everything scripture stood against, virtually the spawn of Satan. Later on, I tried to find the article to have another look. It was *not* listed on the archive page. I understand that Gallo is no longer editor.
Tom, FYI, CT is still very anti-Trump as they can legally be. We are now regularly subscribing, and supporting them.
Good!
Russell Moore is now the editor-in-chief.