Add to that that Trump now has less than 50% of the vote as the count goes on, and 93 million eligible voters did not vote. So, a lot of them were just confused. There is more and more evidence that things are not what they at first appeared to be. We should be wondering why Musk was constantly on the phone with Putin, the master of espionage and spycraft.
In any case, we know that Christian Nationalists are ecstatic. Bring on the suffering, they are raised to believe it is Godly. Also, they have End-of-days beliefs that they think will get fulfilled by Trump. We shall see.
Jumping ship as it were. That is because everyone picked by Trump/Musk/Putin is a pro-Russia choice, and I see the CI being replaced by Russian spies, unless the DOD decides they are not having any of it. Waiting to see if they resign too.
I have read Project 2025, and there is nothing happening including irregularities in the election that surprise me.
Look at Sweden's list because it is in English. That is how to prepare. No one in Europe wants to be caught out like Ukraine was. Prof. Timothy Snyder has a discussion of how that happened too. https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-phantom-campaign
In any case, there are people in the US giving advice for being safe. I find I am having these conversations with friends. Create your communities of support, check your use of media and improve it. Passport in order, ready cash, etc...
What I wrote was NOT an invitation to the sort of accusation of "irregularities" we got from Trump and MAGA. Trump is sitting at 50% as I write this, and yes he majority is gone. He may well end up with a simply a plurality. Harris might even win the popular vote by a tiny margin. Given the inherent Electoral college the GOP possesses, there is near zero chance that a tiny popular vote win by Harris could cost Trump 42 Electoral votes.
Edit: Even though I do not usually read a random substack, I did read the Spoonamore piece. Before Harris rescinds her concession, Spoonamore should provide a lot more data to people competent to evaluate it. Otherwise, like Giuliani, he has theories.
What I last saw from Robert Hubbell is that Trump had less than 50% and that was a couple of days ago. I think it is important that we have an accurate vote count, and that we know about any irregularities. Did you read the Spoonamore letter to see how he got his irregularities? Doesn't it make you want to know what is going on?
These days everybody has a substack. Why should I pay attention to some random substack? Today CNN has Trump at 49.9 %. Right now he has merely a plurality. When all the votes are counted, we may find that he lost the popular vote three times in a row.
I read Spoonamore very carefully. I think people like Chris Krebs (who was in charge of government cyber security during the Trump administration and famously wrote a report asserting that 2020 was the most secure in history) or other experts. I wonder where Spoonamore gets his numbers of bullet ballots for 2024. Where is that sort of granularity being reported apparently on the fly as votes are being counted?
Spoonamore makes assertions about relative numbers of bullet ballots but does not tell us if swing states have generally more than non swing states in other elections. Perhaps swing states always have many times more bullet ballots than non swing states. The rationale here is that there is no incentive for a voter to produce a bullet ballot in a non-swing state because bullet ballots will have no effect on the outcome in those states.
Spoonamore's scenario requires electronic voting. Perhaps Harris should call for hand recounts in e very precinct (not just swing precincts) that use electronic voting.
"I looked into this guy a little bit today. This story is dangerous. HeтАЩs not a data scientist. He went to Wharton for a little while and dropped out to found a tech company. I listened to his interview with Thom Hartmann. Some of the ways they speak are alarmingly similar to тАЬnews sourcesтАЭ like One America Network. This is not my area of expertise, but his arguments are bad. He is confusing correlation and causation, heтАЩs giving the listener a huge data dump of information that is not connected in any way, and he is making a false connection to a lot of things he is an тАЬexpertтАЭ in to make unsubstantiated claims. A lot of the things he is talking about are not possible, and they have already been debunked."
Spoonamore is the person I heard talking yesterday. Didn't know he's a lifelong Republican.
One striking datapoint: In North Carolina, more than 11% of votes for Trump were on ballots that had no votes for anyone down-ballot. Such ballots are rarely more than 1% of the total in any election.
In Arizona it was 7.2%. Nevada, 5.5%.
By comparison: Idaho, 0.03%, Utah, 0.01%.
Is there any plausible reason why voters in swing states would be vastly more inclined to vote only for Trump than voters in more solidly Republican states?
The figures that Spoonamore gives are jaw-dropping - and he has explanations for how the hacking could have been done.
Remember Trump telling his fans that they didn't need to vote because he had all the votes he needed?
I also recall something from election day about Musk acting oddly assured that victory was in the bag hours before the vote counts indicated any such thing.
As I noted in an earlier post, I don't want to mimic the crazypants conspiracism of MAGA - but they are the people who already conspired to overturn an election that didn't go their way and who gave various indications that they would use any means necessary to prevent a loss next time - and their leaders (Trump and Musk) are sociopaths devoid of conscience.
Sam Stein is right, unfortunately. Voters did not care that Biden delivered and they did not care that Trump failed to deliver.
Here is what Prof. Snyder says about Musk and Putin's disinformation campaign. https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/the-phantom-campaign?r=f0qfn&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Add to that that Trump now has less than 50% of the vote as the count goes on, and 93 million eligible voters did not vote. So, a lot of them were just confused. There is more and more evidence that things are not what they at first appeared to be. We should be wondering why Musk was constantly on the phone with Putin, the master of espionage and spycraft.
In any case, we know that Christian Nationalists are ecstatic. Bring on the suffering, they are raised to believe it is Godly. Also, they have End-of-days beliefs that they think will get fulfilled by Trump. We shall see.
The rest of us are going to suffer no matter where we are. I am in Europe and Europe is starting to look at being attacked by Putin and Trump together, so my home country will attack my second country. Jeff Stein tells us that top Intelligence Community people are resigning. https://www.spytalk.co/p/breaking-top-intelligence-igs-resign?r=f0qfn&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Jumping ship as it were. That is because everyone picked by Trump/Musk/Putin is a pro-Russia choice, and I see the CI being replaced by Russian spies, unless the DOD decides they are not having any of it. Waiting to see if they resign too.
I have read Project 2025, and there is nothing happening including irregularities in the election that surprise me.
Even the fact that Scandinavia is updating their war preparedness. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr4zwj2lgdo
Look at Sweden's list because it is in English. That is how to prepare. No one in Europe wants to be caught out like Ukraine was. Prof. Timothy Snyder has a discussion of how that happened too. https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-phantom-campaign
In any case, there are people in the US giving advice for being safe. I find I am having these conversations with friends. Create your communities of support, check your use of media and improve it. Passport in order, ready cash, etc...
What I wrote was NOT an invitation to the sort of accusation of "irregularities" we got from Trump and MAGA. Trump is sitting at 50% as I write this, and yes he majority is gone. He may well end up with a simply a plurality. Harris might even win the popular vote by a tiny margin. Given the inherent Electoral college the GOP possesses, there is near zero chance that a tiny popular vote win by Harris could cost Trump 42 Electoral votes.
Edit: Even though I do not usually read a random substack, I did read the Spoonamore piece. Before Harris rescinds her concession, Spoonamore should provide a lot more data to people competent to evaluate it. Otherwise, like Giuliani, he has theories.
What I last saw from Robert Hubbell is that Trump had less than 50% and that was a couple of days ago. I think it is important that we have an accurate vote count, and that we know about any irregularities. Did you read the Spoonamore letter to see how he got his irregularities? Doesn't it make you want to know what is going on?
These days everybody has a substack. Why should I pay attention to some random substack? Today CNN has Trump at 49.9 %. Right now he has merely a plurality. When all the votes are counted, we may find that he lost the popular vote three times in a row.
I read Spoonamore very carefully. I think people like Chris Krebs (who was in charge of government cyber security during the Trump administration and famously wrote a report asserting that 2020 was the most secure in history) or other experts. I wonder where Spoonamore gets his numbers of bullet ballots for 2024. Where is that sort of granularity being reported apparently on the fly as votes are being counted?
Spoonamore makes assertions about relative numbers of bullet ballots but does not tell us if swing states have generally more than non swing states in other elections. Perhaps swing states always have many times more bullet ballots than non swing states. The rationale here is that there is no incentive for a voter to produce a bullet ballot in a non-swing state because bullet ballots will have no effect on the outcome in those states.
Spoonamore's scenario requires electronic voting. Perhaps Harris should call for hand recounts in e very precinct (not just swing precincts) that use electronic voting.
Terry you are right to be skeptical. My friend has debunked Spoonamore for me. She researched him. Here is what she found.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-election-starlink-musk-steal-trump-38757341656d4f44243076d6356cb68b
She also says,
"I looked into this guy a little bit today. This story is dangerous. HeтАЩs not a data scientist. He went to Wharton for a little while and dropped out to found a tech company. I listened to his interview with Thom Hartmann. Some of the ways they speak are alarmingly similar to тАЬnews sourcesтАЭ like One America Network. This is not my area of expertise, but his arguments are bad. He is confusing correlation and causation, heтАЩs giving the listener a huge data dump of information that is not connected in any way, and he is making a false connection to a lot of things he is an тАЬexpertтАЭ in to make unsubstantiated claims. A lot of the things he is talking about are not possible, and they have already been debunked."
She shared this site too.
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=147216
Rick Hasen is a law professor at UCLA.
"Also, they have End-of-days beliefs that they think will get fulfilled by Trump."
That is one expectation that just may come true.
Spoonamore is the person I heard talking yesterday. Didn't know he's a lifelong Republican.
One striking datapoint: In North Carolina, more than 11% of votes for Trump were on ballots that had no votes for anyone down-ballot. Such ballots are rarely more than 1% of the total in any election.
In Arizona it was 7.2%. Nevada, 5.5%.
By comparison: Idaho, 0.03%, Utah, 0.01%.
Is there any plausible reason why voters in swing states would be vastly more inclined to vote only for Trump than voters in more solidly Republican states?
The figures that Spoonamore gives are jaw-dropping - and he has explanations for how the hacking could have been done.
Remember Trump telling his fans that they didn't need to vote because he had all the votes he needed?
I also recall something from election day about Musk acting oddly assured that victory was in the bag hours before the vote counts indicated any such thing.
As I noted in an earlier post, I don't want to mimic the crazypants conspiracism of MAGA - but they are the people who already conspired to overturn an election that didn't go their way and who gave various indications that they would use any means necessary to prevent a loss next time - and their leaders (Trump and Musk) are sociopaths devoid of conscience.