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howard's avatar

This is the heart of the matter: the intellectual corruption of the US Supreme Court has enabled the end of democracy in Wisconsin.

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Deutschmeister's avatar

As someone once said, elections have consequences. Still more proof, if any were needed, that the 2016 presidential election was the most consequential one in modern memory, if not the entire history of the United States.

I'll say it again. Hillary was right.

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Chief Joe's avatar

Elections seem to have consequences for our side, but as you see here they don’t believe in any consequences for their side and will disregard or undermine at every juncture.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

“As someone once said, elections have consequences.”---Deutschmeister

Not just the election: The future. It doesn’t matter who the president is, as much as the Judges who get lifetime appointments. Make no mistake, anyone of these republican clowns will be beholden to the Federalist Society.

That said, Presidents come and go: four to eight years, but federal judges have life-time appointments. They’ll make rulings for decades, and if republicans continue to lose power, so will the executive. These judges will rule by judicial fiat, and strike down any consequential laws democrats enact.

Is it me, or does every time a republican take the executive, our Supremacist Court expand executive powers under the Unitary Executive Theory. Yet, under democrats, any executive actions are executive overreach, and are usually met with an unfavorable opinion by these religious fascists?

And who is this “someone” everyone keeps hearing about? He seems wise!...:)

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GlenD's avatar

Don't know for sure but probably related to "They." 60-some years ago a wise old uncle (he was 4 years older than I) told me, when I had made a comment beginning with "They say...," that "They say that 'They say' is a liar."

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Kate Fall's avatar

Yes, we know, that's why she won the popular vote despite not being very popular. Elections have consequences, but I can't help but notice that if the election winner had been the vote winner, we wouldn't be in dire straits today.

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Eric Foley's avatar

Well, if you’ll recall, some folks got the idea in their head that Hillary was just too awful to vote for because they couldn’t have their One True Bernie on the ballot in November. So they figured that if their states weren’t likely to be close, they’d just vote for Jill Stein.

Now, look at that very closely while you consider these data points from the 2016 election:

1. Most prognosticators did not expect Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania to be close in Hillary’s favor.

2. Trump won all three.

3. The Jill Stein vote, alone, in all three was greater than Trump’s margin of victory. (And that’s not including Gary Johnson votes to boot.)

4. If Hillary had carried those three states, she’d have won the election.

So, just in case people aren’t getting my drift: yes, your vote matters. Protest votes can swing elections. Be very careful what you do with your ballot.

I kept trying to tell people then that, regardless of what you want, either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump was going to be taking the oath of office in January 20th, 2017, and if you didn’t want it to be him, you HAD to vote for her. Not enough people listened to people like me and decided to FA&FO.

The movie metaphor I keep coming back to for “finding out” is the scene from Tora, Tora, Tora, where an officer who’d wanted tons of confirmation that radar contacts coming into Hawaii were actually Japanese planes, and the guy he’d said that to is standing in front of a window looking on Pearl Harbor in flames, and growls, “You wanted confirmation? Take a look! THERE’S your confirmation.”

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Dick Lanier's avatar

Well said indeed. I would like to take a moment and thank those folks who indulged their inner child and voted for Stein or Johnson because we all know that there was absolutely zero difference between Clinton and Trump. They were clearly equally bad. As I always say, there is a group of people who also indulge their inner child and do counterproductive things without regard for the consequences - and they are called children. And that includes George Bush (43) who according to reports voted "none of the above". But, really, how could someone so disconnected from national politics like he was have a considered opinion about who the next President should be. At least the people who voted for Trump took an honest stand even if I considered it to be glaringly stupid.

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Richard Kane's avatar

So very well said!!!

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No Sympathy, No Charity's avatar

Honestly, it turns out she was being way too charitable.

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