Tim Miller returns from the No Kings protests in New Orleans to deliver heartbreaking and shocking news from Minnesota: what appears to be a politically motivated assassination of Democratic leaders.
Going forward, there should not be one single question for Trump that is not "WILL YOU CONDEMN THESE ASSASSINATIONS?"
Of course, he is manifestly, virulently unfit, so he would likely respond "I JUST THINK THAT QUESTION IS *SOO* STUPID" or "GOOD MORNING TO THE SCUM" and his handpicked gaggle would instead ask him how he's dealing so strongly and masculinely with being abused by radical leftists.
Eff this guy and his bootlickers so hard. I hope he enjoys being remembered as our Hitler, just as insane but even more cartoonish than the OG. I don't typically visit graves (the people aren't there), but will make an exception in his case.
I was at the “cancelled” No Kings event at the MN State Capitol along with a huge crowd. It was sad but hopeful and hats off to the organizers who had to change everything on the fly.
I can’t help but think of all the republican politicians that lied about abortion in order to win elections. Stories about selling aborted fetuses and laws legalizing post-birth abortions circulated unchallenged by conservative politicians and their media outlets. This includes Bulwark favorite, Liz Cheney.
I wish politicians and the media could present their positions with facts and reason rather than lies and smears (and yes, this applies to everyone, not just republicans) but there doesn’t seem to be any incentives to encourage this behavior.
I think there were probably a few nervous politicians comforted by the size and number of protests this weekend. Hope can be found in the darkest times if we turn on a lamp or whatever. :)
Texas Governor Abbott pardoned Daniel Perry for hunting down and murdering a Black Lives Matter protester because Tucker Carlson raged about it for months. Ron DeSantis and local Law Enforcement are tripping over themselves making threats of lethal retaliation for any incidents that occur during protests and vocally encouraging citizens to run people over with their cars if protesters are in the street.
Protecting and rewarding supporters: Fascist leaders and dictators often employ pardons to shield their allies and those who carry out their will from legal repercussions, reinforcing loyalty and obedience. For example, early in his rule, Adolf Hitler pardoned members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) paramilitary wing convicted of murder.
Thank you for addressing this tragedy. Rep. Hortman did not represent me, as I live in rural MN, but I admired her. I wondered if she might be our first woman governor someday, and I'm incredibly sad it can never happen. This is a huge loss for our state. The whole day has had a surreal feeling to it, like no one can quite believe this has happened here. I think this feeling will last awhile.
Tim, thanks for the last 3 minutes of your commentary. Trump and the MAGA administration are inciting political violence. I get frustrated with generalized references to political violence without mention of the instigators and champions of it , Donald Trump, his administration, sponsors, supporters, and those who control him. It’s a lot to fight against, but resist we must, starting with what you have done here.
I am crying here in France as I listen to the excellent Tim Miller describe and talk about these horrible shootings and assassination. I am so ashamed of my home country at this moment, even though there are marches going on to save Democracy. They say that actions speak louder than words; please show me how I can help and act, even though I now live in France. I am so sorry that the MAGA faction has risen in America to a level that defies understanding.
Curious how old you are? Maybe memory fades for you. I’ll be 73 soon and I remember well. I would say it was definitely worse but also different. JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King Jr., the SDS, the Black Panthers, the Weathermen, the SLA, Kent State. And overseas, the IRA, the Japanese Red Army. There was even a kind of romanticism about violent radicalism, bomb building, etc. But at least back then, people weren’t getting their information from confirmation bias affirming algorithms. The kind of hatred toward fellow humans Trump has inspired, calling immigrants vermin and Democrats the enemy within, and the perpetration of this hate through state propagandist Fox News, that is actually worse.
I’m younger but not young! To me, this is the difference: My feeling is that Trump is taking apart the country and doing it in record time. I mean, taking it apart as if it’s a car engine and throwing the pieces away. That’s not how I remember those days, but, yeah, I was pretty young. Comparing Nixon - who bowed to pressure and left - with Trump, that’s my benchmark. Plus, the corruption now is so far beyond the ways things were then. Did you see our interview with Sarah Chayes? This goes deep.
Tim is right, the '60 were worse. 4 unarmed college kids gunned down, (cameras rolling) by the OH national guard at Kent State & large swaths of the country still supported the guard. But it was about monumental issues....Vietnam & civil rights.
The tragedy in MN is about what? A crazy person overdosed on MAGA.
Going forward, there should not be one single question for Trump that is not "WILL YOU CONDEMN THESE ASSASSINATIONS?"
Of course, he is manifestly, virulently unfit, so he would likely respond "I JUST THINK THAT QUESTION IS *SOO* STUPID" or "GOOD MORNING TO THE SCUM" and his handpicked gaggle would instead ask him how he's dealing so strongly and masculinely with being abused by radical leftists.
Eff this guy and his bootlickers so hard. I hope he enjoys being remembered as our Hitler, just as insane but even more cartoonish than the OG. I don't typically visit graves (the people aren't there), but will make an exception in his case.
I've never seen Tim this solemn. Sadly, it was entirely warranted.
They’re looking for a reason to install martial law.
And the second they verbalized the idea, somebody overheard and clocked it because everything they do has to be hamfisted and comically transparent.
Completely disgraceful! We have truly lost our country to these megalomaniacs
It's not lost, any more than it was when we revolted the first time. We know how to do this. He hasn't destroyed all the history books yet.
I was at the “cancelled” No Kings event at the MN State Capitol along with a huge crowd. It was sad but hopeful and hats off to the organizers who had to change everything on the fly.
I was too and I am so glad we Minnesotans were not cowed by this asshole shooter.
Don’t forget that Trump joked, JOKED, about the attack on Paul Pelosi that could have very well been fatal. These people are sick.
I can’t help but think of all the republican politicians that lied about abortion in order to win elections. Stories about selling aborted fetuses and laws legalizing post-birth abortions circulated unchallenged by conservative politicians and their media outlets. This includes Bulwark favorite, Liz Cheney.
I wish politicians and the media could present their positions with facts and reason rather than lies and smears (and yes, this applies to everyone, not just republicans) but there doesn’t seem to be any incentives to encourage this behavior.
I think there were probably a few nervous politicians comforted by the size and number of protests this weekend. Hope can be found in the darkest times if we turn on a lamp or whatever. :)
Texas Governor Abbott pardoned Daniel Perry for hunting down and murdering a Black Lives Matter protester because Tucker Carlson raged about it for months. Ron DeSantis and local Law Enforcement are tripping over themselves making threats of lethal retaliation for any incidents that occur during protests and vocally encouraging citizens to run people over with their cars if protesters are in the street.
Protecting and rewarding supporters: Fascist leaders and dictators often employ pardons to shield their allies and those who carry out their will from legal repercussions, reinforcing loyalty and obedience. For example, early in his rule, Adolf Hitler pardoned members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) paramilitary wing convicted of murder.
https://open.substack.com/pub/thucydidesii/p/well-what-did-you-expect-would-happen?r=33szo&utm_medium=ios
I am betting the killer is bring protected by the Trump adminsitration.
If you love democracy the first thing you need to do is get a rifle and learn how to use it. Yes, I think it is coming to that.
Thank you for addressing this tragedy. Rep. Hortman did not represent me, as I live in rural MN, but I admired her. I wondered if she might be our first woman governor someday, and I'm incredibly sad it can never happen. This is a huge loss for our state. The whole day has had a surreal feeling to it, like no one can quite believe this has happened here. I think this feeling will last awhile.
Tim, thanks for the last 3 minutes of your commentary. Trump and the MAGA administration are inciting political violence. I get frustrated with generalized references to political violence without mention of the instigators and champions of it , Donald Trump, his administration, sponsors, supporters, and those who control him. It’s a lot to fight against, but resist we must, starting with what you have done here.
I am crying here in France as I listen to the excellent Tim Miller describe and talk about these horrible shootings and assassination. I am so ashamed of my home country at this moment, even though there are marches going on to save Democracy. They say that actions speak louder than words; please show me how I can help and act, even though I now live in France. I am so sorry that the MAGA faction has risen in America to a level that defies understanding.
Current affairs would seem to indicate that violence is precisely how we settle our differences here.
Way worse now than the 60s
Curious how old you are? Maybe memory fades for you. I’ll be 73 soon and I remember well. I would say it was definitely worse but also different. JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King Jr., the SDS, the Black Panthers, the Weathermen, the SLA, Kent State. And overseas, the IRA, the Japanese Red Army. There was even a kind of romanticism about violent radicalism, bomb building, etc. But at least back then, people weren’t getting their information from confirmation bias affirming algorithms. The kind of hatred toward fellow humans Trump has inspired, calling immigrants vermin and Democrats the enemy within, and the perpetration of this hate through state propagandist Fox News, that is actually worse.
I’m younger but not young! To me, this is the difference: My feeling is that Trump is taking apart the country and doing it in record time. I mean, taking it apart as if it’s a car engine and throwing the pieces away. That’s not how I remember those days, but, yeah, I was pretty young. Comparing Nixon - who bowed to pressure and left - with Trump, that’s my benchmark. Plus, the corruption now is so far beyond the ways things were then. Did you see our interview with Sarah Chayes? This goes deep.
Tim is right, the '60 were worse. 4 unarmed college kids gunned down, (cameras rolling) by the OH national guard at Kent State & large swaths of the country still supported the guard. But it was about monumental issues....Vietnam & civil rights.
The tragedy in MN is about what? A crazy person overdosed on MAGA.