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James Ackerman's avatar

I've said this before but it bears repeating: To indict Trump is to risk insurrection; to give him a pass is to guarantee his tyranny

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R Mercer's avatar

We will have tyranny one way or another, given the current situation. The only question is who the tyrants are going to be--and who sees them as tyrants and who does not.

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suzc's avatar

And if there's going to be blood in the streets, let's do it now, while the military has an actual president as "commander in chief."

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Eva Seifert's avatar

Trump will appoint the Flynns as the entire joint chiefs, downgrade everyone else, and give him Homeland Security to play with.

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Eva Seifert's avatar

His and whoever follows him.

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James Ackerman's avatar

Unfortunately, yes. And I'll be honest, I don't think his actual successor has emerged on the scene just yet, because whoever does, will be a full-fledged fascist. Thus far, the would-be heir apparent DeSantis is at most a proto-fascist, and that's more for utilitarian's sake than sincerity

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Aug 24, 2022
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Suzanne Clancy's avatar

I can't claim to be fully versed in what DeSantis has done to those you mention. But my subjective take is that his heart is not really all in on the Trumpist tyranny thing. My take is that he is playing with it for power goals. If that pays off for him, and he were to win for President, we would probably be in less trouble than if Trump were, imo, if only because I don't think he has the gut to take it as far as Trump would. Perversely, that may be the reason he doesn't prevail against Trump in a primary.

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Suzanne Clancy's avatar

To be clear, I find DeSantis loathsome and would delight in seeing him lose this next election, although that appears unlikely. And I agree with you that he is more competent and calculating than Trump, which does have potential to make him more dangerous. OTOH, Trump's genuine self-pity and envy/rage as a kid from Queens unable to impress the Manhattan elites puts him effortlessly in sync with the MAGA base, It's hard to imagine DeSantis being able to whip a mob into a frenzy capable of causing the damage we saw on Jan. 6.

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Suzanne Clancy's avatar

Well, there is nothing wrong with politely disagreeing. And we appear to agree that they are both awful and would be bad for the country.

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