[sighs] its nice to see Ed Luce on, sadly he curtails his words he facing four people that are israeli supporters, that he defers his words....no doubt , but he doesnt in his new article at least :-
[sighs] its nice to see Ed Luce on, sadly he curtails his words he facing four people that are israeli supporters, that he defers his words....no doubt , but he doesnt in his new article at least :-
"Yet again, Netanyahu also wrongfooted the Biden administration. On countless occasions over the past year, Netanyahu has appeared to agree to one thing with Washington and done the opposite in practice. Whether it is wrangling's over the terms of a Gaza ceasefire and hostage release, or the more recent attempt at a 21-day ceasefire with Hezbollah, each time Biden is left looking impotent. “The Biden administration seems to be saying, ‘We’re suffering from a bit of autumn damp,’ ” says Pinkas. “No, this isn’t seasonal damp, it’s Netanyahu urinating all over you.”
but to address Mona and the crew points seen as they are reluctant to face this new reality of a israel with a leader bent on war...
1) Israel faces a existential threat:-
a) hamas has 30,000 troops[had] no airforce, no tanks , no heavy weapons
b) hezbollahs has 60-100,000 men, so armoured vehciles, no airforce, missiles of substance
c) iran is a significant threat, with many weapons buts it geographic location is a problem.
Hamas could inflict casualties, likewise so could hezbollah use its missilies but neither group could "invade israel and make a existential threat",for that would require a ground invasion and against near just under 2 million people under arms, if it needs be,thats not gonna happen? its just not a battle neither of these could win. Iran has the numbers granted, but it cant get them over to israel[not unless it invades other countries to do so-which has its own problems]it has the weapons systems to cause massive problems with its missiles thou.Equally the united states of america has promised israels security, so nobody is going to invade israel to make a existential threat,its just not going to happen.
2) Irans missiles, Mona implied they are no threat[as is the line by the israel government] promoting the weapons of the israeli defensive lines of 3 and with america's naval support but a remarkable number of the ballistic missiles did reach their targets...one of the aircraft bases reports that 33 struck it...most not in significate areas..but they did reach the target[see this blowup details of the base showing the damage if you dont beleive]
Equally this does show some restraint for iran knows it can penetrate israels defences if it wishes? last time this was against military targets,iran warns that may not be so ,next time?
3)Hassan Nasrallah dead - israel sees it a great victory indeed the man committed many crimes..but it seems there is a fly on the ointment, as it seems that before the strike, whilst america and france were moving to a ceasefire agreement, they reached out to lebanon who talked to hezbollah who agreed to the ceasefire after being told israel was onboard.
Then the strike at hezbollah happened, probably as they were discussing the newly agreed ceasefire and needing to communicate in person with his commanders as communication devices were down.So it seems that america presented a ceasefire deal that hezbollah accepted, only to have them gather as israel launched their 85 old blockbuster bombs[dont worry about the civilian dead by the way?] killing the entire staff, to which you can thank american diplomacy getting them together? so that makes america complicit or just used by israel - either way nobody has much faith in trusting anything america says anymore?
4) Linda mentioned dont send in the ground troops as the record of hsitory is not good, they have..and have asked to move upto the riverline...as gideon levy observed "first it will be limited, then it will be complicated and then we will be moving onto beirut".....current mission statement to the current ground mission has just recently expanded...i rather think gideon levy is spot on.
Mona mentioned the 60-100,000 israelis that forced this operation in lebanon that "justifes" it,so far there are 2,000 innocent civilians dead, and 1.2 million displaced in lebanon [the differences in scale as always are always on the otherside of israel], add in complications of the lebanon government troops[that hate hezbollah] but have been equipped by USA and trained by UK have come to blows[they see the invasion of lebanon as a threat]they might start fighting israel if they advance further-seeing it as a landgrab?..Equally some UN troops[irish troops] refuse to leave their positions on the border , as called to do so by IDF, might cause other problems?
5) Ed luce himself looks towards the attack of Iranian oil - which iran have promised to attack american ally arab oil fields in return- can you imagine the cost of oil/barrel rise if this happens before the election? how will the american independant vote in this closest of elections?not to mention the anti-war campaigners[especially with americans on the ground and involved?after the first casualty?] add in those that trump will show how much money is being spent on israeli war and protections whilst trump blames biden and kamala and what do you think the result will be?[you worry about shapiro not being taken ,how will these other factors feature?]
6)Press - no independant press are allowed into gaza, Al jazzara in israel is shutdown, and has now been ordered shutdown in the westbank[not their terrority], how do we see the press functioning Lebanon?
"At least 28 on-duty medics have been killed in the past 24 hours in Lebanon, according to the WHO. Sky's is on the ground in Beirut where rescue workers say they are falling victim to Israeli airstrikes."
it seems israelis are targeting aid workers, not once, not twice but even when the red cross[the third group of aidworkers arrive to help the wounded? its not a great look as the IDF drone directs things overhead?
7) Diplomacy - its seems for the most part, most experts agree that with their next PM , that iran doesnt want a war[they have enough internal problems], even at the UN:-
"Jordanian FM - offers Israel what all its leaders only dreamed of, out loud, in public– and Israel media doesn't even report on it. Netanyahu, it goes without saying, has made no comment beyond congratulating himself for engorging his cabinet"
There are numerous videos showing Bibi's character and indeed his intent to foster war on iraq /iran[see old sentate hearings] and make isreal the hegemony of the middle-east, if only america could help him defeat iraq and iran...even as far as the other day his statement where provoking iran to action [after the numerous assassinations] that iran will be liberated and its people will be free. Other join in the smelling of blood and war:-
Bennett: "Now is the time that we can attack because Iran is fully vulnerable. It's time to hit and destroy the nuclear program."
Even as far as your panels such statements of "if iran gets in position of destroying us,they will", "blind destructive hate"...but most people see all the destruction is being done by israel..even as far as Hezbollah, the rocket fire was perhaps to be condemned as they started it, but the rockets were generally ineffective with little casualties[poor missiles,no targeting,iron doom protections], the missiles fire in response every month by israel were generally five to six times as much and much more destructive?[graph shows the difference on this article - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj544x65o]
8) Economy - Israels economy is bad , war is bad for business and like most business , its hard to maintain a good economy and israel is no exception :-
Much investment has been switched from israel to outside countris, hi tech is worried as israel has lost its coal supplier, and electrical supplies may suffer,hi tech businesses need 24 hours electrical coverage lest their servers go down..so many are leaving or looking to leave, that not including the food industry or tourist industry?
Summary
Alright i grant you the Iranian religious leader the other day was more bellicose and more aggressive in his views towards israel but that is because he is facing israelis strike in retailiation...and there has come to a point if israel is equally serious that iran will get serious as well....and when that happens&you find that the israelis defences are not as good as you were lead to believe , remember it was you and your fellows[ladies as well] that thought to strike when the iron was hot, that israel should pushed things over the line[as i think bibi will do]
.... and when you are a week before a election, with soaring gaz prices, and american casualties , and kamala losing in the polls, dont complain about losing american democracy[that you tell us you all favour] because you and yours&biden brought this on yourselfs :( you [but mainly bibi]made a choice, that israeli unconditional support and hurting iran was a better thing to be done, than protecting american democracy.....but i suppose like in all things, most conservatives will find a way to blame somebody else....[i see this with trump supporters alot as well]
[sighs] its nice to see Ed Luce on, sadly he curtails his words he facing four people that are israeli supporters, that he defers his words....no doubt , but he doesnt in his new article at least :-
https://www.ft.com/content/547c2d73-18f8-4af7-b49c-c916b7a9e12c?accessToken=zwAAAZJZg1Fjkc9UfC1zGPhK99O0nMkWt6nhLA.MEQCHxCwJXnk9RaEKQ3Ib3RFBstnUhtV2Lkjb6xn2a0a-LMCIQDp89NftAJY3Ul7-8CEXvsQRKr0IKz1z5fHin--mcV_QA&segmentId=e95a9ae7-622c-6235-5f87-51e412b47e97&shareType=enterprise&shareId=74276e61-79e9-4f21-a1e4-9951d10539e2
"Yet again, Netanyahu also wrongfooted the Biden administration. On countless occasions over the past year, Netanyahu has appeared to agree to one thing with Washington and done the opposite in practice. Whether it is wrangling's over the terms of a Gaza ceasefire and hostage release, or the more recent attempt at a 21-day ceasefire with Hezbollah, each time Biden is left looking impotent. “The Biden administration seems to be saying, ‘We’re suffering from a bit of autumn damp,’ ” says Pinkas. “No, this isn’t seasonal damp, it’s Netanyahu urinating all over you.”
but to address Mona and the crew points seen as they are reluctant to face this new reality of a israel with a leader bent on war...
1) Israel faces a existential threat:-
a) hamas has 30,000 troops[had] no airforce, no tanks , no heavy weapons
b) hezbollahs has 60-100,000 men, so armoured vehciles, no airforce, missiles of substance
c) iran is a significant threat, with many weapons buts it geographic location is a problem.
Hamas could inflict casualties, likewise so could hezbollah use its missilies but neither group could "invade israel and make a existential threat",for that would require a ground invasion and against near just under 2 million people under arms, if it needs be,thats not gonna happen? its just not a battle neither of these could win. Iran has the numbers granted, but it cant get them over to israel[not unless it invades other countries to do so-which has its own problems]it has the weapons systems to cause massive problems with its missiles thou.Equally the united states of america has promised israels security, so nobody is going to invade israel to make a existential threat,its just not going to happen.
2) Irans missiles, Mona implied they are no threat[as is the line by the israel government] promoting the weapons of the israeli defensive lines of 3 and with america's naval support but a remarkable number of the ballistic missiles did reach their targets...one of the aircraft bases reports that 33 struck it...most not in significate areas..but they did reach the target[see this blowup details of the base showing the damage if you dont beleive]
https://horsdoeuvresofbattle.blog/2024/10/04/imint-irans-strike-on-nevatim-airbase/.
Equally this does show some restraint for iran knows it can penetrate israels defences if it wishes? last time this was against military targets,iran warns that may not be so ,next time?
3)Hassan Nasrallah dead - israel sees it a great victory indeed the man committed many crimes..but it seems there is a fly on the ointment, as it seems that before the strike, whilst america and france were moving to a ceasefire agreement, they reached out to lebanon who talked to hezbollah who agreed to the ceasefire after being told israel was onboard.
Then the strike at hezbollah happened, probably as they were discussing the newly agreed ceasefire and needing to communicate in person with his commanders as communication devices were down.So it seems that america presented a ceasefire deal that hezbollah accepted, only to have them gather as israel launched their 85 old blockbuster bombs[dont worry about the civilian dead by the way?] killing the entire staff, to which you can thank american diplomacy getting them together? so that makes america complicit or just used by israel - either way nobody has much faith in trusting anything america says anymore?
https://x.com/MarquardtA/status/1841918360327749995
4) Linda mentioned dont send in the ground troops as the record of hsitory is not good, they have..and have asked to move upto the riverline...as gideon levy observed "first it will be limited, then it will be complicated and then we will be moving onto beirut".....current mission statement to the current ground mission has just recently expanded...i rather think gideon levy is spot on.
Mona mentioned the 60-100,000 israelis that forced this operation in lebanon that "justifes" it,so far there are 2,000 innocent civilians dead, and 1.2 million displaced in lebanon [the differences in scale as always are always on the otherside of israel], add in complications of the lebanon government troops[that hate hezbollah] but have been equipped by USA and trained by UK have come to blows[they see the invasion of lebanon as a threat]they might start fighting israel if they advance further-seeing it as a landgrab?..Equally some UN troops[irish troops] refuse to leave their positions on the border , as called to do so by IDF, might cause other problems?
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/10/04/irish-peacekeepers-lebanon-latest-israel-invasion/
5) Ed luce himself looks towards the attack of Iranian oil - which iran have promised to attack american ally arab oil fields in return- can you imagine the cost of oil/barrel rise if this happens before the election? how will the american independant vote in this closest of elections?not to mention the anti-war campaigners[especially with americans on the ground and involved?after the first casualty?] add in those that trump will show how much money is being spent on israeli war and protections whilst trump blames biden and kamala and what do you think the result will be?[you worry about shapiro not being taken ,how will these other factors feature?]
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/03/oil-prices-could-soar-if-israel-targets-irans-energy-infrastructure.html
6)Press - no independant press are allowed into gaza, Al jazzara in israel is shutdown, and has now been ordered shutdown in the westbank[not their terrority], how do we see the press functioning Lebanon?
"At least 28 on-duty medics have been killed in the past 24 hours in Lebanon, according to the WHO. Sky's is on the ground in Beirut where rescue workers say they are falling victim to Israeli airstrikes."
it seems israelis are targeting aid workers, not once, not twice but even when the red cross[the third group of aidworkers arrive to help the wounded? its not a great look as the IDF drone directs things overhead?
https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1842244848771805378
7) Diplomacy - its seems for the most part, most experts agree that with their next PM , that iran doesnt want a war[they have enough internal problems], even at the UN:-
"Jordanian FM - offers Israel what all its leaders only dreamed of, out loud, in public– and Israel media doesn't even report on it. Netanyahu, it goes without saying, has made no comment beyond congratulating himself for engorging his cabinet"
https://x.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1840755473953231180
There are numerous videos showing Bibi's character and indeed his intent to foster war on iraq /iran[see old sentate hearings] and make isreal the hegemony of the middle-east, if only america could help him defeat iraq and iran...even as far as the other day his statement where provoking iran to action [after the numerous assassinations] that iran will be liberated and its people will be free. Other join in the smelling of blood and war:-
https://x.com/DakeOcansey/status/1841757657293545623
Bennett: "Now is the time that we can attack because Iran is fully vulnerable. It's time to hit and destroy the nuclear program."
Even as far as your panels such statements of "if iran gets in position of destroying us,they will", "blind destructive hate"...but most people see all the destruction is being done by israel..even as far as Hezbollah, the rocket fire was perhaps to be condemned as they started it, but the rockets were generally ineffective with little casualties[poor missiles,no targeting,iron doom protections], the missiles fire in response every month by israel were generally five to six times as much and much more destructive?[graph shows the difference on this article - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj544x65o]
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The first time the words "Gideon" and "Levy" have appeared sequentially on The Bulwark ... and sadly, probably the last.
The individual (nor his views) will ever be platformed on The Bulwark, whose viewers will be much poorer for it.
+1 follow.
8) Economy - Israels economy is bad , war is bad for business and like most business , its hard to maintain a good economy and israel is no exception :-
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/04/economy/israel-economy-war-impact/index.html
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-09-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/war-is-bad-for-israels-economy-arrogant-hedonistic-smotrich-is-making-it-worse/00000192-0b4c-d543-ab9f-2f7ed34d0000
https://themedialine.org/life-lines/economist-warns-israels-war-costs-could-reach-10-of-gdp-raising-urgent-challenges/
Much investment has been switched from israel to outside countris, hi tech is worried as israel has lost its coal supplier, and electrical supplies may suffer,hi tech businesses need 24 hours electrical coverage lest their servers go down..so many are leaving or looking to leave, that not including the food industry or tourist industry?
Summary
Alright i grant you the Iranian religious leader the other day was more bellicose and more aggressive in his views towards israel but that is because he is facing israelis strike in retailiation...and there has come to a point if israel is equally serious that iran will get serious as well....and when that happens&you find that the israelis defences are not as good as you were lead to believe , remember it was you and your fellows[ladies as well] that thought to strike when the iron was hot, that israel should pushed things over the line[as i think bibi will do]
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/benjamin-netanyahu-middle-east-us-election-b2624094.html [Democrats fear Netanyahu is pushing his Middle East war to influence the US election]
.... and when you are a week before a election, with soaring gaz prices, and american casualties , and kamala losing in the polls, dont complain about losing american democracy[that you tell us you all favour] because you and yours&biden brought this on yourselfs :( you [but mainly bibi]made a choice, that israeli unconditional support and hurting iran was a better thing to be done, than protecting american democracy.....but i suppose like in all things, most conservatives will find a way to blame somebody else....[i see this with trump supporters alot as well]
https://x.com/academic_la/status/1842641807056031882