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Tim Coffey's avatar

You know what kills me? Whenever these people talk about defending Western Civilization, I laugh out loud because in reality, they reject all the advances that "Western Civilization" has made. They don't believe in science. They don't believe in individual liberty. What they do want is to go back to an era before the Enlightenment and implement some form of throne-and-altar style of government.

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pfuhlir's avatar

Re the Enlightenment, see my satire that I wrote a couple of years ago:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/3/23/2022464/-The-Enlightenment-Was-a-Hoax-Satire

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Tim Coffey's avatar

Is it really satire, though? :)

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pfuhlir's avatar

All satires rely on real-world acts, but I agree it's not very funny.

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R Mercer's avatar

There is no real requirement for satire to be "funny."

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pfuhlir's avatar

True. It's more social or political commentary. Funny is a bonus.

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Tim Coffey's avatar

It's darkly funny.

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Mingo's avatar

Oh goody! I can't wait to get back to the middle ages. No vaccines, no dentists, no education.

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MillennialExistential's avatar

Also, socialism is 100% "Western" in origin. Funny how they never acknowledge that.

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R Mercer's avatar

Well, it would help if many of them actually knew what socialism was... because it is pretty apparent that they don't. If you do not know what something is, it isn't surprising if you do not know where it came from.

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R Mercer's avatar

As long as they are sitting on the throne and control the altar.

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Dan-o's avatar

That is exactly the key. This whole thing, or whatever you want to call it, is because they see their electoral power as unable to completely regain the throne lawfully. They do not want to share power. They do not want to compromise with democrats. It seems to me that most of them want to live in a white suburb in the late 1950's.

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Tim Coffey's avatar

Exactly. These people have a disordered relationship with authority. They reject it, yet crave it at the same time.

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R Mercer's avatar

I do not know that I would characterize it as "disordered." It is actually kind of normal.

People do not like being placed UNDER authority. People hate being under authority that they do not agree with. People LOVE being in authority.

An interesting read in connection to this issue:

https://www.amazon.com/American-Nations-History-Regional-Cultures-ebook/dp/B0052RDIZA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1PMMJ1GPK1XJM&keywords=american+nations&qid=1693407658&sprefix=american+nations%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1

One of the things lying behind this relationship with authority (or lack of one) is what is often referred to as "borderer" culture. People that live on the edges of empires or between competing empires or in frontier zones that are not fully under control.

Many of the settlers of certain areas of this country came from such backgrounds.

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