Obviously not going to matter to MAGA but how much of this performative BS turns off the non-base voter? If you're an average person who barely pays attention and you see that the GOP worships guns over flags that has to embed in your psyche somewhere.
Obviously not going to matter to MAGA but how much of this performative BS turns off the non-base voter? If you're an average person who barely pays attention and you see that the GOP worships guns over flags that has to embed in your psyche somewhere.
I'd hope so, but who can tell. Up until now, this nonsense seems to help among the MAGA base, and MAGA calls the shots in large parts of the country. I desperately hope enough people wake up, but I'm not optimistic.
My first reaction when seeing the pins was "well they're not even trying to win the youth vote anymore"
As the father of three teens who have had to hide under their desks their entire school lives. Those pins are a big red sign saying "we don't care at all about you"
Unfortunately I share your pessimism. A big chunk of this country only cares about the maga base
I however live in PA and shit like this is why they GOP lost control of the state senate for the first time in like 40 years
There are signs of hope and what these idiots don't understand is kicking the bee hive that is gen z may not end well for them
my Gen Z kids are so utterly turned off by the republicans running the state of Texas, where we live that it gives me hope. I remain appalled that active shooter policy is what they are taught
My gen z kids are just as turned off by the gop because they have the opposite values on every issue they care about (environment, guns, lgbt, etc.). Also, they are the first generation to lose rights that previous generations had.
I have been saying for a long time that the gen z generation is not going to act like previous generations. I truly believe these kids are going to vote in massive numbers.
These kids have watched the adults fuck everything up that they care about and they're scared. Plus they can mobilize like no other generation before them.
I'm an Xer and it breaks my heart with how badly we let the younger generations down. In no way, shape, or form should a school active shooter drill have to exist.
Agree. I was thinking how often these right-wingers insist that their AR 15s are preserving their liberty. How much liberty can one have in a country where schools have active shooter drills and people worry about getting shot at the mall, movie theater, a dance club or country and western concert.
Exactly. And how many of these Rambo-wannabes are themselves the products of messed up, abusive households. More often than not, from the ones IтАЩve seen. Basically, disturbed people taking out their anger against innocent bystandersтАжnow wrapped up in some sort of phony right wing political self-justification.
And sorry for belaboring the point, but now the 5th Circuit says taking guns from spousal abusers is unconstitutional because itтАЩs supposedly not based in historical precedent. LetтАЩs hope that twisted logic isnтАЩt extended any further.
I know a lot of them are overcompensating and using guns to fill pretty big voids.
In my experience, the people I know who own these ARs typically take them to the range once, then put them in a cabinet and never fire them again. I've never known one person who has ever used these for hunting and they're not practical for home protection either.
Mainly because the ammo is crazy expensive. I like to target shoot, but use a "plinking gun" that takes cheap 22LR ammo. Can't justify spending the extra money even for 9mm.
I do know a couple of guys who hunt wild pigs with an AR, but they're a special breed of weirdo.
When my Gen X sons say, тАЬOK, boomer, тАЬ itтАЩs not meant as a compliment. IтАЩd be the first to acknowledge that my g-g-g-generation has fucked things up.
I wasn't going for Not All Boomers. My point was that no generation is better or worse than another. The Greatest Generation had war heroes and war profiteers. Boomers produced presidents and serial killers. Gen X and Millennials are no more lazy than any other cohort.
my kids say that, with the eye-roll too. (thank goodness I'm not a boomer, I remind them) and I agree with Hilbert, all the things my kids care about is what the GOP show contempt for. Showing contempt is the worse way to engage with this generation.
I grew up in Australia and have been working in Texas for 8 years now, it is NOT normal to teach kids active shooter policy - I believe its a form a torture (my kids do not attend a public school for mainly this reason) and you bet, they will be totally mobilized. my daughter is 16 and just cannot fathom how the government now has more rights over her body than she has, yet put individual rights to use a gun over the right of a community to be safe - and i agree with her!
Aside from the contempt for democracy, the right wingers have repeatedly demonstrated contempt for the rights of anyone outside their bubble, and of course, a total disregard for real, observable and solvable problems. My god, they were opposed to friggin LED lightbulbs. Today, anything they donтАЩt want to think about is either banned or labeled fake news.
If these politicians would speak with these kids they would understand how tuned in they are.
They're paying attention and not happy.
If Trump / Desantis think punching down to a minority is going to work in their favor they have no idea the furry they will release from the gen z kids
Yeah the boomer get a lot of well deserved flak but I know a lot of Regan Dem Boomers who have had enough of the maga bullshit so there's even a silver lining there
Obviously not going to matter to MAGA but how much of this performative BS turns off the non-base voter? If you're an average person who barely pays attention and you see that the GOP worships guns over flags that has to embed in your psyche somewhere.
I'd hope so, but who can tell. Up until now, this nonsense seems to help among the MAGA base, and MAGA calls the shots in large parts of the country. I desperately hope enough people wake up, but I'm not optimistic.
My first reaction when seeing the pins was "well they're not even trying to win the youth vote anymore"
As the father of three teens who have had to hide under their desks their entire school lives. Those pins are a big red sign saying "we don't care at all about you"
Unfortunately I share your pessimism. A big chunk of this country only cares about the maga base
I however live in PA and shit like this is why they GOP lost control of the state senate for the first time in like 40 years
There are signs of hope and what these idiots don't understand is kicking the bee hive that is gen z may not end well for them
my Gen Z kids are so utterly turned off by the republicans running the state of Texas, where we live that it gives me hope. I remain appalled that active shooter policy is what they are taught
My gen z kids are just as turned off by the gop because they have the opposite values on every issue they care about (environment, guns, lgbt, etc.). Also, they are the first generation to lose rights that previous generations had.
I have been saying for a long time that the gen z generation is not going to act like previous generations. I truly believe these kids are going to vote in massive numbers.
These kids have watched the adults fuck everything up that they care about and they're scared. Plus they can mobilize like no other generation before them.
I have high hopes / respect for their generation
Maga definitely appeals to the older folks.
I'm an Xer and it breaks my heart with how badly we let the younger generations down. In no way, shape, or form should a school active shooter drill have to exist.
I agree. I tell my kids all the time. Don't do what my generation did. Get involved and be loud.
How active shooters could exist after Columbine if a massive failure.
I have no idea how to fix it but to be rejected by an entire generation should help
I hope so.
Agree. I was thinking how often these right-wingers insist that their AR 15s are preserving their liberty. How much liberty can one have in a country where schools have active shooter drills and people worry about getting shot at the mall, movie theater, a dance club or country and western concert.
Especially when you look at other countries. It's not an impossible issue to resolve. We just don't have the stomach to take on the fight.
We have traumatize and entire generation because dude bros like to play rambo at the range and can't deal with any restrictions.
Exactly. And how many of these Rambo-wannabes are themselves the products of messed up, abusive households. More often than not, from the ones IтАЩve seen. Basically, disturbed people taking out their anger against innocent bystandersтАжnow wrapped up in some sort of phony right wing political self-justification.
And sorry for belaboring the point, but now the 5th Circuit says taking guns from spousal abusers is unconstitutional because itтАЩs supposedly not based in historical precedent. LetтАЩs hope that twisted logic isnтАЩt extended any further.
I know a lot of them are overcompensating and using guns to fill pretty big voids.
In my experience, the people I know who own these ARs typically take them to the range once, then put them in a cabinet and never fire them again. I've never known one person who has ever used these for hunting and they're not practical for home protection either.
Mainly because the ammo is crazy expensive. I like to target shoot, but use a "plinking gun" that takes cheap 22LR ammo. Can't justify spending the extra money even for 9mm.
I do know a couple of guys who hunt wild pigs with an AR, but they're a special breed of weirdo.
When my Gen X sons say, тАЬOK, boomer, тАЬ itтАЩs not meant as a compliment. IтАЩd be the first to acknowledge that my g-g-g-generation has fucked things up.
Boomers did not fuck things up any more or less than any other generation. Like everyone else, we did good stuff and bad stuff.
Now we have to get into the not all boomers discussion. Awesome.
Yes not all boomers are bad. Point taken
I wasn't going for Not All Boomers. My point was that no generation is better or worse than another. The Greatest Generation had war heroes and war profiteers. Boomers produced presidents and serial killers. Gen X and Millennials are no more lazy than any other cohort.
Boomers did not fuck up America.
Fair enough. For the record, I'm not placing all of our countries faults at the feet of the boomers.
No, you didn't. Others do, though, which is the only reason I jumped in here, before the F the Boomers dogpile got too high! Have a good day, Hilbert.
my kids say that, with the eye-roll too. (thank goodness I'm not a boomer, I remind them) and I agree with Hilbert, all the things my kids care about is what the GOP show contempt for. Showing contempt is the worse way to engage with this generation.
I grew up in Australia and have been working in Texas for 8 years now, it is NOT normal to teach kids active shooter policy - I believe its a form a torture (my kids do not attend a public school for mainly this reason) and you bet, they will be totally mobilized. my daughter is 16 and just cannot fathom how the government now has more rights over her body than she has, yet put individual rights to use a gun over the right of a community to be safe - and i agree with her!
Aside from the contempt for democracy, the right wingers have repeatedly demonstrated contempt for the rights of anyone outside their bubble, and of course, a total disregard for real, observable and solvable problems. My god, they were opposed to friggin LED lightbulbs. Today, anything they donтАЩt want to think about is either banned or labeled fake news.
Freedom, baby!
If these politicians would speak with these kids they would understand how tuned in they are.
They're paying attention and not happy.
If Trump / Desantis think punching down to a minority is going to work in their favor they have no idea the furry they will release from the gen z kids
Picking on minorities is what autocrats and would-be autocrats do. The smaller and weaker the target, the better.
Hahaha
Yeah the boomer get a lot of well deserved flak but I know a lot of Regan Dem Boomers who have had enough of the maga bullshit so there's even a silver lining there
Drawing from the recent passing of David Crosby, perhaps Gen Z kids will teach their parents well.
I learn a lot from my kids. I wish they could teach their grandparents.
These pinwearers donтАЩt want any vote at all.
They only have to worry about keeping their base fired up because their districts are gerrymandered to be deep red
I believe they only live for today and donтАЩt give a lot of thought to the future. ItтАЩs тАЬhow can I be a star and get clicks right now?тАЭ
It's very profitable to think that way. Look at MTG's fundraising after every stunt
Musical accompaniment by The Grassroots:
Sha la la la la la live for today
Sha la la la la la live for today
And don't worry 'bout tomorrow, hey
Sha la la la la la live for today (live for today)