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mel ladi's avatar

This is why many of us pro-lifers were ultimately driven out of the Republican Party. There remains a mismatch between what Republicans say (eliminate abortion) and do (encourage abortion through removing every prop and any help for struggling women and children).

I’m counting it down now. The rest of my pro-life friends are going to realize very, very soon when the Republican Party turns pro-choice in order to save their power. This was never about the babies, never.

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Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

Your friends are going to have to let go of the poor reasoning that maintains pro choice is pro abortion. It's not. It's about preserving a right to needed health care, not letting couples avoid responsibility. Pro life advocates are also going to have to deal with the fact they are forcing their beliefs about abortion on women and medical providers, but pro choicers have never forced a woman or a medical provider to choose abortion. It is pro choicers who actually honor God's greatest gift to humanity---free will.

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Random's avatar

"It's about preserving a right to needed health care, not letting couples avoid responsibility."

"Couples"?

Men's avoidance of responsibility is baked into the biology -- it is their "choice" to assume it

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Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

It's a woman's choice to assume responsibility as well which is why Pro lifers stress adoption as a pro life choice. But, as a post birth pro lifer, I think it's perfectly acceptable to legislate biological parents take some responsibility for the outcome of their previous sexual choice. Hence I carefully chose the word 'couples.'

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Pam Bethune's avatar

Have you adopted or fostered an unhealthy child? One of the ones that some women tearfully decide to abort because there is such poor support for her and that unhealthy child? If not, I propose that you consider the golden rule and how it applies in this situation.

What about the life or health of the woman? Do you care more about an unborn fetus than the living, breathing mother?

I am pro-choice, but not pro-abortion. Same as most Americans.

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Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

No I have not adopted, but for 20 years worked with these kids in a Community Mental Health Center, for which the last 10 I ran the residential program. We had a lot of kids aging out of the youth system whose parents, usually the father, were totally uninvolved in their lives. This is not to say their mothers were really involved in their lives. Moms were usually looking for the next boyfriend not necessarily providing emotional support for the existing kids. I learned that we have a lot of kids in this country born into homes, or adopted into homes, that don't really provide the support children need to maintain healthy development....and in most cases, it's because their parents never grew up in an environment that supported them. In other words, it's truly generational and I hope it doesn't take seven generations to get over the mistakes of the parents.

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