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Wonderful conversation- JVL- kudos to you for admitting your blind spot growing up in white culture. I think it is rare to have someone in your position being so genuine and humble about what you don’t know and what you are learning about. Dare I say, you are getting woke?! I love Vans take on right problem crazy horrible solution on the right. Nuanced. And also his humility about what he didn’t know and is now studying. Really amazing piece!!!

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