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This started out as a great conversation but I got to the part about how we must acknowledge the kernel of truth in what RFK has been saying and had to pause to write this comment because this is just so, so wrongheaded. I hate to break it to you, but there is no kernel of truth. If the goal is to lead with science, the beliefs that RFK is espousing are fundamentally incompatible with the stated goal. The lies about how unsafe our food is, how unsafe our drugs are, how unsafe our cosmetics and personal care products are, rising rates of cancer, etc. have been repeated so thoroughly for so long by so many people that even the “scientific” among us have assumed it to be true, and Van Jones appears to be taking it as a fact, which is both wrong and dangerous.

I strongly recommend Dr. Jessica Knurick and Dr. Adrian Chavez for actual scientific information about diet and nutrition, Dr. Jess Steier of Unbiased Science for public health expertise, and Jen Novakovich of The Eco Well for information about the cosmetics industry. These individuals are truly doing god’s work trying to get the truth out there, not because they are downplaying the challenges we face, but because we are focused on the wrong things while the real issues continue to go unaddressed, and the consequences are literally costing lives. The kind of vitriol they face from both liberal bourgeoise bohemian moms in San Jose and Bible-thumping MAGAs in the rust belt is truly astounding, all because they are trying to get the truth is complex and people don’t want complexity. They want easy answers.

As for Michelle Obama, she was demonized because she WAS going after the real causes of rising cancer rates: unhealthy diets full of sugar and fat that lack nutrients and fiber, combined with a sedentary lifestyle. The work she did was a genuine threat to power, and the solutions she offered provided few opportunities for grifting.

RFK, on the other hand, doesn’t have a sincere bone in his body. He’s not a “rebel,” he’s a grifter like the rest of them. He makes millions off his anti-vaxx scam at the expense of people’s lives. He is going to get thousands of people killed by convincing them that beef tallow is healthier than canola oil. It’s hard to even guess what his final death count will be by the time his reign of terror is over. So no, Republicans have not identified a real problem and offered a shitty solution—the whole thing is an end-to-end grift. They are literally making up problems to justify gutting and crippling the FDA, USDA, CDC, NIH, and other agencies that actually do keep us healthy. You might think you’re countering them, but you’re actually perpetuating the same lies they tell. Once again, Democrats need to stop letting Republicans control the narrative on everything and go on the offense instead of constantly assuming a reactive position.

And don’t even get me started on Tulsi Gabbard. It sounds like you might want to read up on her background as a homophobic cult member. AOC and Bernie are rebels. Gabbard and RFK are scammers.

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