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Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

And I've encountered many in the pro-Trump camp who insist Democrats are baby-eating demon worshippers who only win elections by stealing and are hellbent on destroying the USA. Specifics please. What specifically have the Bulwark writers said that makes you support Trump?

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Austin Ruse's avatar

You misunderstand. I supported Trump from when Cruz dropped out. I still support him. My point is that the crazy rhetoric of the never merely confirms us in our support of him. And no, you’ve never heard a conservative call you a baby-eater.

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Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

What is your definition of a "conservative"?

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Austin Ruse's avatar

Not debating that.

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SandyG's avatar

Anyone who uses a term and won't define it is arguing in bad faith.

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SandyG's avatar

You sound like Nikki Haley with her response to what the cause of the Civil War was - "What do you think it is?" And Trump's refusal to debate at all.

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Austin Ruse's avatar

It’s just a tedious debate. It’s not interesting. And probably no longer applicable. It is now conservative to defend the 60-year/old sexual revolution. I am now firmly anyone who wants to upend the institutions that have betrayed us. Trump gets this. Maybe Bobby Kennedy does.

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SandyG's avatar

What institutions are those?

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Austin Ruse's avatar

The justice system. The FBI. Top brass of military. Journalism. Academia. I could go on.

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SandyG's avatar

OK, two questions then: 1. Who is "us" in "they betrayed us"? 2. How did they betray that "us"? I will remind you that to betray means to "expose (one's country, a group, or a person) to danger by treacherously giving information to an enemy."

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Austin Ruse's avatar

Betrayed our trust. Americans.

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SandyG's avatar

Thanks for the answer to #1. Pls answer #2.

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Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

Do you have any idea how radicalized you sound?

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Austin Ruse's avatar

Useless. Boring. Pointless.

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Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

Okay, between Liz Cheney and Donald Trump, who do you think better upholds actual conservative values?

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Austin Ruse's avatar

I’ll just say this. Folks ought to grateful to Trump for destroying three dynasties; Bush, Clinton, Cheney.

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Ellen Hinchee's avatar

Trump is not a conservative. He is off the spectrum of right versus left. He is an authoritarian, which is on a different spectrum. He just happens to have hijacked a previously conservative party. The Cheneys are conservative and have not been destroyed. I would vote for Liz in a heartbeat. Your comments are not grounded in logic, reason, or evidence. You seem to have joined just to poke your finger in the eyes of those you view as libs (most of us are not). We welcome reasoned debate but that’s not what you bring. You would likely be happier elsewhere.

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Cheerio's avatar

I have to remind everyone here to not feed trolls.

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Austin Ruse's avatar

On the other hand, you could engage and come to know another point of view.

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Austin Ruse's avatar

I do believe the Cheney are finished and Trump did it. This is a good thing, something liberals should agree with.

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Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

Rather than obfuscating, can you simply answer the actual question?

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Austin Ruse's avatar

Not debating conservatism.

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