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Catie's avatar

But the key to your story, Charlie, is that you CHOSE. You and your girlfriend CHOSE to continue with her pregnancy. Picture that exact same scenario, two reckless, unprepared teenagers, with the regime now sanctioned by the court and the Republican legislatures: the state tells you that you MUST. Forcing a woman who doesn't wish to be pregnant to continue to be pregnant, to subject her to the physical arduousness that is pregnancy and childbirth - for the state to compel her to that is monstrous.

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There is not, and will never be, a culture of life on the right, and the reason for this is simple: there was nothing stopping them from creating one BEFORE roe was overturned. Roe didn't stop them from granting care for new mothers, it didn't stop them from offering resources or aid to those who wanted to start families. Nothing about Roe stopped them from actually creating this supposed 'culture of life' that they claim they want. But they didn't do it, because they don't actually want it.

As for the 'rubio plan' it's a trojan horse. Telling mothers to take three months out of their social security for the first three months after a child is born is not aid. Making a mother work three extra months when she's 65 so she could care for a newborn is not a boon to the mother. That's not a culture of life, that's a culture that says 'well, the child is less important than making sure you actually work for that retirement.'

Nevermind that bans now create a great deal of questions that the right does not wish to answer. If abortion is murder, then it's first degree premeditated capital murder. In which case, that's 25 to life in most places, and in some cases, carries the death penalty. The question is, if a mother has an abortion, should we hang her, is now a question that needs to be asked in states that have the death penalty.

The truth of the matter is this: regardless of whether you hated abortion or thought it was a moral evil, removing roe and criminalizing it does not and never would create a better world for anyone. It wasn't great for mothers before roe was created, and it's not going to be better after.

And none of this even touches on the question of things like what to do in cases of rape or incest. One can argue, 'well, the child did nothing wrong.' But then we get back into the traditional theoretical debate of 'if you woke up one day and were suddenly medically attached to someone who would die if you removed yourself, are you morally required to keep yourself attached to them, despite the fact that you did not desire to be in that position?'

Reality is, this is not going to result in anything but dead women. And everyone knows this.

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