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Paul Mccrary's avatar

It was from 1/7? A true patriot would have gone public right away

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Kathe Rich's avatar

She's about 26 years old. Cut her some slack.

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Ben Gruder's avatar

I suspect Mr. Mccrary is not much older than her, perhaps younger. How else to explain the black and white judgmental moral certainty?

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Jeff the Original's avatar

This is the GOP we're talking about. We're happy with the delayed patriots...because at least they are patriots after all.

Maybe you should vent your opinion against those who remain silent.

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Paul Mccrary's avatar

Why are we happy that they added and abetted Trump? You have very low standards

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Jeff the Original's avatar

Because one brave soul is better than no brave souls.

I know the difference between standards and reality.

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Paul Mccrary's avatar

I do too, yet I've never helped an autocratic white supremacist try to destroy the US, like she did

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Ben Gruder's avatar

When have your ethics ever been tested?

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Paul Mccrary's avatar

How is aiding and abetting Trump brave?

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Jeff the Original's avatar

ThatтАЩs notтАжturning against him is. Why do I think itтАЩs brave? Because thereтАЩs a very long list of those who havenтАЩt. The reason is that theyтАЩre afraid of the consequencesтАжbecause they are severe.

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DeeDee D's avatar

Not happy about the aiding and abetting part... happy about the eventual redemption part. Personally, without redemption, I'd be completely *ucked. So I agree with Jeff that we should celebrate everyone who wants to do the right thing. Only perfection doesn't need redemption. The rest of us? We mess up. when we want to clean up the mess, that is a very good thing.

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Deutschmeister's avatar

Easy to say. Hard to do. Have you ever walked the mile in her shoes? I'm guessing you'd see it differently if it were your own well-being at stake.

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Ben Gruder's avatar

Ever heard of the Stanley Milgram experiments about following questionable orders? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment#Validity You don't know what you'd do until you're in the situation.

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Hortense's avatar

I would guess watching the lives of various election officials, etc., getting threatened because they did their patriotic duty might have put a pause in her step. But she did give closed door testimony, prior to her public testimony. I'm good with her actions.

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Carl Spagnoli's avatar

True Patriots should have cancelled their cable subscriptions years ago and cut off Faux Noise and Murdoch's profit center. "Give me Liberty or give me Tucker" - an easy choice for patriots.

Humans are complicated, by the way, and Cassidy H. is definitely human but she has gotten the right and honorable place before any of the other seditionists in that inner circle. Absolutely a 'John Dean' moment, thank God!

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TomD's avatar

It's the "No true Scotsman" trope.

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Ben Gruder's avatar

More like taking back the term 'patriot' rather than ceding it to authoritarians. Otherwise the malicious Right can turn all words to their own liking. Fake News for instance. Trump coopted it to mean any news that was unflattering to him. But I reserve the right to call Russian bots fake news.

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DeeDee D's avatar

How far back do you want to go? A true patriot would have never voted for tRump...

Her life was in danger. Why are you trying to denigrate her? Give it a rest, please.

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Paul Mccrary's avatar

She made many bad choices. Lauding bad people is a problem

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Kathe Rich's avatar

Does your sterling life qualify you to pass judgment on this young, brave woman?

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TomD's avatar

In her case, interning at the White House. So what?

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Kathe Rich's avatar

Was she an intern?

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TomD's avatar

Started as one a few years ago, rose to Meadows' #1 aide.

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Kathe Rich's avatar

And why is that her moral downfall? She hasn't even been around the block yet.

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DeeDee D's avatar

Thank you Max. You always make cogent points.

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TomD's avatar

Worse, she had a Trump lawyer.

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