"How real is this threat? AYFKM? Have you met these guys? Of course, it’s plausible."
It never ends with these people. We are watching democracy as we have known it our entire lives being chipped away, piece by precious piece, all across the country. Battle after crazy battle. We MUST convince a vast majority of Independents that this wou…
"How real is this threat? AYFKM? Have you met these guys? Of course, it’s plausible."
It never ends with these people. We are watching democracy as we have known it our entire lives being chipped away, piece by precious piece, all across the country. Battle after crazy battle. We MUST convince a vast majority of Independents that this would not end well for our children and grandchildren, if we cannot impose massive defeats at the polls to today's GOP - normies included.
We have to hammer home that the GOP puts Guns over Children, bans books but not AR-15's, prefers performative theater to actual governance, stresses grievance over solutions.
In many ways the Wisconsin GOP's ever-increasing illiberal descent predates the Trump era by over a decade, going back to at least Act 10, when then Gov. Scott Walker and the state legislature took a blowtorch to public employees' collective bargaining rights in 2011. It was a steady downhill trajectory after that. Witness, if you will, State Assembly Speaker Robin Vos try to explain why the legislature, during a probably unconstitional "emergency" legislative session to strip executive powers from the governor on the eve of Walker's 2018 reelection loss to Democrat Tony Evers, "Geez, maybe we made some mistakes giving Gov Walker too much power." They of course then proceeded to strip executive powers away and, not coincidentally at all, the state Supreme Court at the time upheld the move as a legitimate constitutional act. These people have no shame and they certainly have gone well beyond caring what a majority of voters in the Badger state want, elections be damned. So while it is disheartening to learn of the plot to remove a democratically-elected Supreme Court Justice before she has even won her race (which is not a given by any means) I am absolutely not surprised at all. There is no bottom with the Wisconsin GOP. I will also note that should Judge Janet win and they actually go thru with their plot to remove her I will take to the streets of my fair state capitol for the first time in my nearly 50 on this Earth. Enough is enough.
This report about Republicans’ plan to impeach Judge Janet if she gets elected has almost put me over the edge. I moved to Door County, WI from the Chicago area 4 years ago, and damn. These kind of shenanigans are beyond the pale....they just DO NOT CARE what the people want in this hideously gerrymandered state. No Medicaid expansion, no fair maps, and they fight the Democratic governor every step of the way. It’s sickening and breaks my heart. I remember when Wisconsin used to be a cool state. 😔
I took many a geomorphology field trip as well as Frank Lloyd Wright excursions to Wisconsin while in grad school at Michigan State decades ago. Being from New England, American's Dairyland reminded me in many ways of Vermont. And I adored Wisconsin. Now Wisconsin reminds me of a MAGA hellscape Florida or Missouri or Arkansas. (The choice is yours.)
PS I visited the Door Peninsula too. County of many fish boils. :)
I saw a quick blurb recently with a Minister saying that White Christian Nationalists are really nothing more than White Nationalists. Thought he made a great point!
He didn't actually say his dog was a non-Christian. It still goes through the motions and tells itself it is Christian, even attending Wednesday Bible chewing at least once a month.
That depends on who you were. I grew up during Jim Crow in Columbia MO, a college town. My parents owned a clothing store downtown. My caretaker was a black women who I adored. We did everything together and I saw Jim Crow through her eyes. When we went to the movies we had to sit in the balcony after standing in the "colored line". When we traveled we had to take her food out to the car because she was not allowed inside a resturant. I could go on and on.I was just a kid and I saw how wrong it was, it formed my politics at age 5. Thankfully, my family did not pass bigotry along to me. My parents and my grandmother paid into social security for their black employees. When she passed away we learned that my grandmother had been supporting a black daycare center for years. I have always been so thankful that they did not give me something to overcome.
I guess its plausible and also being done with the usual playbook of putting something out there that initially appears unlikely but by the time they get to the place they can implement it the public has accepted it as "normal." The R candidate claims he is talking about impeaching the county judges (of which she is one) and others who have "failed" at their job - and Rs have been agitating about getting rid of the the District Attorney for a while now. But to impeach a newly elected Supreme Court Judge by claiming she has "failed" before she has made any decisions? He says he has not ruled this out - but I hope it just more agitprop to try to drive their base to the polls rather than a serious threat.
Good point about softening the ground. They push the boundaries so often and so hard that the overton window shifts and makes what was previously unthinkable acceptable (and a sign of 'strength')
I'm picturing an inverse Christmas Story where instead of a bb gun, the kid wants a book and his conservative parents won't buy one because he'll strain his eyes reading.
Desantis press conference in the near future: "You know how the woke Left indoctrinates our children? I'll tell you: LITERACY! They take your tax dollars and fund public schools that teach your children to read and write! That's why I've introduced the "Stop Literacy in Florida" bill. All right-thinking Floridians will put their "X" on the dotted line, and show those woke Leftists they can't force little Jimmy and Jane to read or write!" (N.B. Upon close reading the SLIF bill also reveals new sumptuary laws restricting the wearing of velour tracksuits in bold colors to the executive branch).
All so true. However, the woke crowd wants to take away my gas stove. I just have to vote Republican. Until that thinking goes away, democracy is on life support.
What has changed in the last 50 years, since Nixon, is "never again" thinking now dominates the gop. If you took today's gop back to '74, Nixon serves out his term.
"How real is this threat? AYFKM? Have you met these guys? Of course, it’s plausible."
It never ends with these people. We are watching democracy as we have known it our entire lives being chipped away, piece by precious piece, all across the country. Battle after crazy battle. We MUST convince a vast majority of Independents that this would not end well for our children and grandchildren, if we cannot impose massive defeats at the polls to today's GOP - normies included.
We have to hammer home that the GOP puts Guns over Children, bans books but not AR-15's, prefers performative theater to actual governance, stresses grievance over solutions.
In many ways the Wisconsin GOP's ever-increasing illiberal descent predates the Trump era by over a decade, going back to at least Act 10, when then Gov. Scott Walker and the state legislature took a blowtorch to public employees' collective bargaining rights in 2011. It was a steady downhill trajectory after that. Witness, if you will, State Assembly Speaker Robin Vos try to explain why the legislature, during a probably unconstitional "emergency" legislative session to strip executive powers from the governor on the eve of Walker's 2018 reelection loss to Democrat Tony Evers, "Geez, maybe we made some mistakes giving Gov Walker too much power." They of course then proceeded to strip executive powers away and, not coincidentally at all, the state Supreme Court at the time upheld the move as a legitimate constitutional act. These people have no shame and they certainly have gone well beyond caring what a majority of voters in the Badger state want, elections be damned. So while it is disheartening to learn of the plot to remove a democratically-elected Supreme Court Justice before she has even won her race (which is not a given by any means) I am absolutely not surprised at all. There is no bottom with the Wisconsin GOP. I will also note that should Judge Janet win and they actually go thru with their plot to remove her I will take to the streets of my fair state capitol for the first time in my nearly 50 on this Earth. Enough is enough.
Almost age 70 but I'll be joining you at the Capitol
I’ll be 69 in June. We remember how to do this! 😁
Good for you! Thanks for more clarification on the Wisconsin GOP.
And I will join you! The time to take it to the streets is long overdue!
This report about Republicans’ plan to impeach Judge Janet if she gets elected has almost put me over the edge. I moved to Door County, WI from the Chicago area 4 years ago, and damn. These kind of shenanigans are beyond the pale....they just DO NOT CARE what the people want in this hideously gerrymandered state. No Medicaid expansion, no fair maps, and they fight the Democratic governor every step of the way. It’s sickening and breaks my heart. I remember when Wisconsin used to be a cool state. 😔
I took many a geomorphology field trip as well as Frank Lloyd Wright excursions to Wisconsin while in grad school at Michigan State decades ago. Being from New England, American's Dairyland reminded me in many ways of Vermont. And I adored Wisconsin. Now Wisconsin reminds me of a MAGA hellscape Florida or Missouri or Arkansas. (The choice is yours.)
PS I visited the Door Peninsula too. County of many fish boils. :)
Add too....
prefers neo-national socialism over democracy.
I saw a quick blurb recently with a Minister saying that White Christian Nationalists are really nothing more than White Nationalists. Thought he made a great point!
The Faux Christianity is important for their sense of certainty and self-righteousness.
Most of these people are bout as Christian as my dog.
Sorry - want to know what kind of dog you have (other than non-Christian)!
Shih Tzu, she spends a lot of time meditating. ;)
Southern Barkist
He didn't actually say his dog was a non-Christian. It still goes through the motions and tells itself it is Christian, even attending Wednesday Bible chewing at least once a month.
PS As in Nationalsozialismus.
So, we had more democracy under Jim Crow
That depends on who you were. I grew up during Jim Crow in Columbia MO, a college town. My parents owned a clothing store downtown. My caretaker was a black women who I adored. We did everything together and I saw Jim Crow through her eyes. When we went to the movies we had to sit in the balcony after standing in the "colored line". When we traveled we had to take her food out to the car because she was not allowed inside a resturant. I could go on and on.I was just a kid and I saw how wrong it was, it formed my politics at age 5. Thankfully, my family did not pass bigotry along to me. My parents and my grandmother paid into social security for their black employees. When she passed away we learned that my grandmother had been supporting a black daycare center for years. I have always been so thankful that they did not give me something to overcome.
Not the Black folk.
Who is "we?"
I guess its plausible and also being done with the usual playbook of putting something out there that initially appears unlikely but by the time they get to the place they can implement it the public has accepted it as "normal." The R candidate claims he is talking about impeaching the county judges (of which she is one) and others who have "failed" at their job - and Rs have been agitating about getting rid of the the District Attorney for a while now. But to impeach a newly elected Supreme Court Judge by claiming she has "failed" before she has made any decisions? He says he has not ruled this out - but I hope it just more agitprop to try to drive their base to the polls rather than a serious threat.
Good point about softening the ground. They push the boundaries so often and so hard that the overton window shifts and makes what was previously unthinkable acceptable (and a sign of 'strength')
"Tommy put that book down, it's dangerous! Go play with your AR-15 instead."
I'm picturing an inverse Christmas Story where instead of a bb gun, the kid wants a book and his conservative parents won't buy one because he'll strain his eyes reading.
Desantis press conference in the near future: "You know how the woke Left indoctrinates our children? I'll tell you: LITERACY! They take your tax dollars and fund public schools that teach your children to read and write! That's why I've introduced the "Stop Literacy in Florida" bill. All right-thinking Floridians will put their "X" on the dotted line, and show those woke Leftists they can't force little Jimmy and Jane to read or write!" (N.B. Upon close reading the SLIF bill also reveals new sumptuary laws restricting the wearing of velour tracksuits in bold colors to the executive branch).
Literacy has almost the same letters as liberal.
Coincidence or conspiracy?
Worse still... when you put "literacy" and "liberal" together, you get "Liberace."
Ideas like this should be put into action and streamed on Netflix. Use culture to sway the culture.
Well, have you seen how strong Ralphie's prescription is? Fuck, reading is bad! /s
All so true. However, the woke crowd wants to take away my gas stove. I just have to vote Republican. Until that thinking goes away, democracy is on life support.
Nobody wants to take your gas stove away. C’mon, Mike, you’re smarter than that. Next thing you know, they’ll want to put seat belts in cars.
Seat belts? How will I exit after a crash? The acme of foolishness!
Don't forget pronouns.
"life support" - that's the best way to look at it now. Always just one election away....
That has always been true, we’re just having to re-learn the lesson that every election is important.
What has changed in the last 50 years, since Nixon, is "never again" thinking now dominates the gop. If you took today's gop back to '74, Nixon serves out his term.
So it was always true, but it's now much truer.
The good guys have to win every time. The bad guys can keep trying until their one success.