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Oldandintheway's avatar

The Biden resurrection story will be more powerful than any candidate who might replace him. Biden is putting on a good show at the NATO conference. He is showing leadership and the value of a strong alliance. Biden remains instrumental at keeping NATO together and focused. Can you imagine Trump even showing up at that conference, or what he would say if he did?

Trump believes he's got it made now that there are so many clips of Biden looking old. But once the press' feeding frenzy about replacing Biden subsides they will focus on Trump, his lies, his cruelty, his lack of understanding about how a government should work, his narcissism, how he is a sexual predator, and a convicted felon. The press and the rest of us have to highland Project 2025, and how Trump should not be allowed to distance himself from it. It was written by his staff. The same people who gave Trump the names for the Supreme Court. Trump is their puppet and they expect him to perform.

Yes, Biden still slurs his words a bit, and he rambles in press conferences, but he has been, and will continue to run the best administration in the last 70 years. If he dies in office then America will get what it needs the most, a strong, assertive, competent Black woman president.

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Mark P's avatar

Biden will have more "senior" moments over the next four months and of course the press will cover it because people are interested in it and therefore it makes the press money. They won't cover Trump's outrages as much because nothing Trump does stands out among the flood of b.s. he spews daily. It's unfair but this is the asymmetric warfare JVL talks about. The Democrats and Dem candidates need to be perfect, but the authoritarian GOP can basically do/say whatever it wants and get away with it.

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Terry Hilldale's avatar

Tim Miller counted 20 in the past 3.5 years. That averages to one about every two months.. So he might be on track for two or three more before the election. We should be so lucky when we are his age.

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Mark P's avatar

That was before the debate. Now every single moment of his is going to be scrutinized like never before, and he will be expected to be out and front speaking unscripted on a daily basis, not hidden away and giving only scripted comments as infrequently as possible.

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Terry Hilldale's avatar

You continue to mischaracterize the situation. No one is hiding Biden, and just because the media would rather cover the seriously incoherent Trump than boring normal Biden does not mean that unscripted events are as infrequent as possible. Personally I am glad he doesn't do those helicopter statement that Trump was so fond of.

But I grant you one point. Biden has been a gaffe machine since he was first elected to office at the age of 29. All the media has to do is wait and then pounce. And yep In order to decrease those gaffes, since his election, Biden has been doing a lot more self-monitoring. That alone will slow him down and sometimes render him speechless. Joe is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. But still, nothing about Biden even compares to Trump's fluent incoherence and danger to us all.

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Mark P's avatar

OK I shouldn't have said hiding, that was unfair. What I mean is that he can't continue to simply govern like he has been, he now has to start campaigning which means a lot more speaking, a lot more attention on his speeches, and a lot more opportunities for flubs. He's lost all benefit of the doubt with the debate.

Of course Biden is infinitely better than Trump, but the best candidate doesn't always win. Trump appears healthier and more vigorous, and that registers with voters' feelings, which are much more important to most low-information voters than legislative accomplishments, unfortunately. Those low information undecided voters are the ones he needs to win over. He's already got the Democratic base on his side, but that's only 1/3 of the electorate.

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Terry Hilldale's avatar

The partisan identification of registered voters is now evenly split between the two major parties: 49% of registered voters are Democrats or lean to the Democratic Party, and a nearly identical share – 48% – are Republicans or lean to the Republican Party.

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Mark P's avatar

Those who lean Democrat aren't necessarily going to vote for a Democrat, a lot of these people are low information voters who don't think about politics on a daily basis. They don't know about Biden's accomplishments because for whatever reason he and his team either can't effectively communicate them or the people are just in a "throw out the incumbent" mood and accomplishments don't matter. They see the choice as between a frail old man and a less frail clown. Many of them will sit out the election.

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Terry Hilldale's avatar

Pew finds that independents generally vote the way they lean. there are only about 7% true independents, but they could give trump the WH.

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K. Burns's avatar

I agree with you wholeheartedly, except for one crucial thing, the press. I don’t think we can expect for MSM to do the right thing. They are all corporatized and in it for the money. The lopsided coverage of Biden and Trump is frightening. I haven’t read anything by a reporter (NYT/WAPO) that has gotten down to brass tacks and described Trump as cruel or moronic, lacking intelligence (unless it’s the occasional opinion piece). There needs to be more serious reporting on the danger to democracy Trump poses and they’re not doing enough. It’s what worries me.

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suzc's avatar

I don't know what's wrong with the Like button but I can never light it up.

In any case, I agree with you about the press as well!

I recently saw a list of TRUMP DONORS including the CEOs of ABC, NBC, MSNBC , CNN and CBS, New York Times, WaPo and WSJ: Every one of them! The MSM is IN TRUMP'S POCKET!

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Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

That's definitely part of it, but I also think security concerns also play a huge factor in the coverage. Hardly any outlet is covering Trump's constant pimping for stochastic terrorist attacks and the miasma of fear this has induced in politics and the media.

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suzc's avatar

That might be true if those CEOs cared about anything but their own wealth. I don't see signs of it. "Greed is good" is killing us.

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Ed M's avatar

History is littered with people who thought autocracy would just be bad for ‘those other folks’

I don’t get how big business feels a Trump presidency and autocracy will be ‘good for business’.

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knowltok's avatar

Big business is run by people who see no reason for History to be on the curriculum in college, especially in business and MBA programs.

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Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

It's not just the CEO's. It's threats across their entire outlets and at reporters and production staff.

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JF's avatar

They probably also donated to Biden. That’s what they do; play both sides hoping to curry favor, like the knights of olde.

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suzc's avatar

That would be some consolation. But it makes their political acumen very poor if they think any of them will survive the first six months of Project 2025.

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JF's avatar

Agreed! So many are so fearful to take a stand. Everyone who could make a difference are hedging. I hate having a front row seat to how societies fail.

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suzc's avatar

me too

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knowltok's avatar

Those that go along with the New Order will survive. One or two examples will be plenty.

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Angie's avatar

Not uncommon, they don't want him coming after them...lots of businesses donate to both sides...

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Dave Yell's avatar

The trouble is will voters credit Joe for his NATO appearance? Just like they don't credit him for anything else.

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Oldandintheway's avatar

That is up to us. Get involved in GOTV and telling the truth. Write to all of the media you use to get information. Tell them to report about the Biden resurrection. Tell them that waiting for Joe DiMaggio to save us is a terrible strategy. Tell them to tell the truth instead of just being sharks going for blood. Biden has been the best president we have had for 70 years. He is not much different now from what he was a month ago.

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Dave Yell's avatar

"Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? Our nation has turned its lonely eyes to you." By the way,I agree.

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

That's a big part of what's going on right now. Folks are terrified -- legitimately -- of Trump and want to know that a silver bullet will slay the monster and everything will be all right. Grappling with the fact that there is no silver bullet is creating a lot of panic.

Love your Joe DiMaggio analogy.

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suzc's avatar

The only problem with your last sentence is that it just takes a minute, literally, to have a stroke. A Feb. physical isn't going to cut it after what we saw on stage. At THIS point I'm willing to consider the whole thing was sorcery or voodoo but we SAW what we saw and it was near-fatal. The WH has done NOTHING to tamp down the fear.

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Oldandintheway's avatar

The same is just as true for Trump. He is a heart attack waiting to happen. He is stressed, overweight, eats terribly, and stays up all night ranting. No physical for one without the other. We can all drop dead this afternoon -- especially in the red states where there is no healthcare.

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suzc's avatar

Well, ok, but Trump is the Undead so i don't think it works on him.

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JF's avatar

Oh, I needed a laugh!

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Alex Dash's avatar

Good one!

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Mark P's avatar

Haha, at times I feel the only thing that can save us is Trump finally meeting his maker sometime within the next four months.

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Mark P's avatar

Yep, we all know that Trump and his team will cover up and deny any and all evidence of decline. Asymmetric warfare again.

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Mark P's avatar

Yes, I don't believe the WH is being honest about Biden's health, this is more than just normal aging/lack of sleep/exhaustion/having a cold, etc.

Either he's been this way for several years, meaning there has been a cover-up, or it has come on suddenly, meaning he could get much worse over the coming few months. Neither option gives me confidence that he is up to four more years.

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suzc's avatar

That's exactly my concern too. Not because I think a dead Biden and prez Kamala will harm America but because I think the fear of it will keep their votes at landslide defeat levels -- 35-45 Million maybe. I don't think that is the rational choice this year but the American electorate has shown little rationality the past quarter century.

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Mark P's avatar

Exactly! The Biden administration has shown they are perfectly capable of running the country, but the lack of enthusiasm or confidence in him is really going to hurt him in November at this rate.

If the American electorate was rational Trump wouldn't be the GOP candidate this year, and certainly wouldn't have a fighting chance of winning, argh!

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Sherri Priestman's avatar

The NYT’s piece this morning is about how rattled our NATO allies are.

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Dave Yell's avatar

NATO has been rattled for months. The NYT's piece is not exactly breaking news.

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Hortense's avatar

I agree. with this. Both Biden needs to show his strengths and capabilities, continuously and with no major errors, AND Trump needs to be tied very clearly to Project 2025. There is a lot of evidence from Trump's past, first term and recent crap that can be used to tie him to Project 2025, despite his mutterings that he knows nothing about it.

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Dave Yell's avatar

As Trump is now saying regarding project 25; "I know nothing. I see nothing". *Sergeant Schultz

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Hortense's avatar

I enjoyed Hogan's Heroes a lot. I do not in any way enjoy the Trump show.

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Dave Yell's avatar

Speaking of the Trump show, I could never understand the appeal of The Apprentice! That show started the fraud that is Trumpster. Before then he was a clown.Now he is a clown with a flamethrower. (as Charlie so often pointed out)

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Hortense's avatar

I never watched that show. I have always found Trump to be repulsive. Also, I am not a fan of reality shows, so a double hell no for me. I can understand the appeal, though. A person can vicariously through other people's problems and attacks, and thus feel better about their sad lives.

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Dave Yell's avatar

I never watched it either.I'll go a little further, I Hate reality shows! That is why the networks have gotten so bad. I know they are cheap to produce. Thats why all the good stuff made now a days are on HBO,Amazon Prime etc.

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suzc's avatar

"I know nothing but I know what I like."

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JF's avatar

And he will switch his allegiance in a New York minute and do as he’s told once elected. Trump is a useful marionette.

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Dave Yell's avatar

As I have always said, Trumpster is merely following his base, not leading it.

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max skinner's avatar

A salesman to the bone. Tell the people what they want to hear.

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Dave Yell's avatar

And know your audience, like a comedian does.

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Sherri Priestman's avatar

Somehow he doesn’t agree with a lot of it in spite of knowing nothing about it.

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Hortense's avatar

It is amazing how much he knows about stuff he's never heard of. Much like all the amazing people he put in his administration that he's never met.

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

In happy news, "Project 2025" is a more popular Google search right now than "Taylor Swift" -- according to a stat The Man saw last night.

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knowltok's avatar

That's great, but who has to google Taylor Swift at this point? ;)

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Mark P's avatar

Also Trump still can be a crafty sob when he wants to. When he's talking to donors he tries to behave himself, saving his peak crazy for the rallies.

Sarah made a point a week or two ago that the media not covering Trump's rallies is actually helping Trump because the crazy isn't getting through to the bulk of the electorate anymore like it was in 2016. Along the same lines she said kicking him off Twitter has helped him as well. Almost every day he says something ridiculous on Truth Social, even crazier than the things he said on Twitter, but no one hears it now. The media needs to cover Trump and amplify the horrifying things he is saying and the things his team is planning for his next administration if he wins.

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Rebecca K's avatar

Maybe this'll be how the story ends up.

If Biden never has a bad night again.

And if there aren't any medical revelations about his cognitive state.

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Hubby McGee's avatar

Respectfully, your comment is delusional.

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suzc's avatar

We prefer to respect one another here. Your comment is unhelpful. We all understand your fears; we share them.

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Hubby McGee's avatar

“We”? Who made you the class monitor? The comment is delusional, not necessarily the person.

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Angie's avatar

Still a n insult..which we frown on here, you can disagree without insulting people

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Hubby McGee's avatar

Well gee, “we” police and thanks for your insulting “we” as if “I” am not a part of “your” discussion. And “I” will state for a third time, this statement is delusional.

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Angie's avatar

We as in the community, which if you post regularly you are...the we was all of us we...not a specific one

In order to make a delusional comment, you have to be delusional or lacking in some sense etc, so . yes, it is insulting

Also, it is the only rule The Bulwark has for posting, and JVL especially is big on it...and for the posters to point it out to each other and report if it is really bad

Though it is my preference not to be mean for any reason...I am just following their rules ..as I respect them ( rules and people)

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Hubby McGee's avatar

I’ve been a Bulwarker literally since Day 1 (probably before you). It is nice to know your opinion. Go ahead and report me. Kick me out. That will still not change my opinion.

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Angie's avatar

I I have been here since 2019, don't think it was right at the beginning, but, pretty close...

Your opinion is yours and fine, it is the manner in which you gave it that was uncivil

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Hubby McGee's avatar

How about you just block me.

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Angie's avatar

I am not reporting you, and I never block anyone....or report people for that matter, unless they are threatening to me personally....

I promote civility on comment sections every where, I think it is important for the country

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