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Jackie Ralston's avatar

Great edition, JVL.

As someone who first got online in the mid '80s and has never really left (even met my former partner on an email discussion list), I've wrestled with questions around horizontal versus vertical community a fair bit over the years too. In my experience, the benefits and drawbacks of each aren't necessarily as clear as we might think or want them to be.

I met many people first online, and then in real life, and we created genuine, deep relationships that endured for decades; I daresay many would still exist if I hadn't changed my political views. While we weren't often physically together, the support was ongoing and substantive. I helped someone I considered my second mother to a more peaceful death through an ongoing email conversation. I couldn't travel to her and she obviously couldn't travel anywhere, but my physical presence wasn't needed.

My recent physical neighbors include a family that displayed Trump 2016 campaign materials in their windows and left their dogs' massive shits all over right outside our building; both of these were contra to their lease. I've lost count of the number of dysfunctional relationships we've heard through the walls/floors, or even out in public. And this is allegedly a solidly middle-class community.

Even when teaching at the community college, it was increasingly difficult to find and engage with people as curious about the world and interested in exploring issues and ideas in good-faith discussions as I've encountered here ... and I don't even comment that much! I'd much rather hug it out with many people here than anyone physically nearby.

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Jenn's avatar

May I have permission to gloat and wallow in schadenfreude over Spotify flushing all that money down the drain on podcasts?

I probably spend waaaay too much time...oh hell--I do spend waaaay too much time listening to podcasts. They are a fantastic way to get me to do stuff I normally avoid doing since I can listen to a podcast while I exercise, pull weeds, walk the dog, clean house, chop vegetables....all that repetitive boring work is now a chance to listen to interesting people talk about stuff that they love. BBC podcasts are terrific. I'm glad that the organic and small scale nature of the medium is the form that is flourishing, and that the attempt to turn them into a mass media show is falling flat.

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