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Don Gates's avatar

If a Trump/Greene ticket doesn't go down in a landslide, we are truly a country of irredeemable idiots.

A pretty depressing read today. Also, reason number 971 why DeSantis is a fascist, why he would be no better than Trump if president, and why the writers at The Bulwark should stop pretending that he should be supported over Trump in the 2024 primary so they can still maintain some sort of credibility with the folks at Conservative Inc. Neither one is acceptable, and picking one over the other is like picking between an uppercut to the balls and a kick in the balls.

The thing DeSantis did that infuriated me more than anything, and which I don't recall really seeing much coverage of at The Bulwark, is forming his election integrity Gestapo to arrest minority voters on grounds that fall apart in court in order to intimidate minority voters away from voting. The arrest is what's important; the evidence, or whether the charges get dismissed for the lack of evidence, is not. We can question whether this or that policy amounts to rightwing voter suppression, but this outrage is without a doubt brazen voter suppression. The man is a total monster.

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KN in NC's avatar

I don't recall any Bulwark writers supporting DeSantis. Did I miss something?

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Eric Fry's avatar

Hi. I was referring to someone saying that DeSantis wasn't removing all the books in classroom libraries, he was just removing them to be vetted. The government-approved books then can be in classroom libraries.

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Don Gates's avatar

The argument I've heard in The Bulwark is that DeSantis is bad, but if they were voting in a Republican primary, and their vote were actually consequential, they would vote for DeSantis over Trump. I think they've made this argument due to pressure from the likes of Rich Loury, who say they prefer DeSantis over Trump, so the Never Trumpers have to meet them half way and support DeSantis over Trump, too. I see it as a false choice, though.

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Eric Fry's avatar

And an abuse of the justice system. Like Jim Crow, it corrupts the judicial system from police to prosecutors to judges. It's like DeSantis is shooting bullets at black people's feet and ordering them to dance.

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Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

Given the state of the GOP electorate, is there any chance that a non-monster can win the nomination?

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Eva Seifert's avatar

No. But there are a couple trying to buck McCarthy on committee appointments now that they're in the House. A very faint glimmer of hope.

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Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

What was striking to me during the speaker election fight was the utter timidity of the so-called moderates. Gotta wonder how much the environment of death threats has altered their behavior.

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rlritt's avatar

I wouldn't be surprised.

The success of the NAZIs and other fascists groups is their willingness to inflict pain and violence. It's easy to act immorally if you convince yourself that it's you it's others who bad.

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Don Gates's avatar

Not likely. The cruelty is the point, it's a feature not a bug, and on and on

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