I originally thought that the Tennessee GOP had some there there, and indeed they did, the Dem representatives certainly deserved a letter of reprimand. Being on the correct side of this fight doesn’t make them immune from the body’s rules and decorum. But the TN GOP reps must be drunk on their own power and believe there will be no cons…
I originally thought that the Tennessee GOP had some there there, and indeed they did, the Dem representatives certainly deserved a letter of reprimand. Being on the correct side of this fight doesn’t make them immune from the body’s rules and decorum. But the TN GOP reps must be drunk on their own power and believe there will be no consequences for that level of overreach. (And yeah, I couldn’t help but notice the two expelled happened to be black.)
There has to be consequences to these types of actions, doesn’t there?
Except that apparently there were no consequences for the representative accused of child sexual molestation (and is heard on a phone call apologizing to one of his victims). None for the one who peed on a Dem's office chair. None for the one convicted of domestic assault.
But sure, there should be consequences for speaking out against child murder.
In legislatures the world over, the usual punishment for violating decorum is censure. Expulsion is usually for getting convicted of a crime or other serious misconduct.
Part of this story is missing. According to a state Senator, who was previously a representative and, is also a black woman, for YEARS this rebublican majority has not ALLOWED debate from the minority party. They cut off their mikes, use rules to jam through legislation without allowing for fact finding sub committees to do the necessary expert and study process that has been done for decades. They kill minority party bills WITHOUT DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!!
Puts what these Tennessee 3 in a different light in my humble opinion. It put's these condescending republican words in a different light. One of these young black men, during their "trial" yesterday, was lectured about introducing bills to get them passed but what has been going on is the republicans kill them WITH NO DEBATE.
They have been silencing the minority party for years with 'decorum' and 'house rules' as a bludgeon, as way to shut them up.
Also, these republicans didn't follow due process as usually one is referred to an ethics committee and a process is followed to do fact finding and the member is allowed to mount a defense. These two young black men did NOT get a chance to get a rigorous defense. It's disgusting and typical of the KKK south. Object lesson in critical race theory for ALL TO SEE.
Especially as the third rep herself pointed out she, a 60 year old white woman, didn’t get expelled for the same offense during the same vote. The forced birth GQP only expelled the young black men.
We must remember the protests came in the wake of the murder of six people, including three nine-year-olds. When passions are running so high, it's obscene to inflict such a severe punishment. There may be no direct consequences for the representatives who did this, but the story is terrible nationally for the Republican Party. So there may be consequences for these representatives in the larger sense that the goals of the Republican Party may be thwarted.
I actually had been thinking of a trip to Nashville for a couple of reasons.
I will not go anywhere near TN now, nor FL, nor TX for that matter. I just do not want to subject myself to the horror that is Republicanland lawlessness and disorder.
It's not that I thought that was your goal (in fact, reading many more of your comments has convinced me that it's not), but I aspire to give the benefit of the doubt.
The way I see it, if one *truly* cares about an idea, one would seek to change hearts and minds in support of one's idea. To not do so, to me, suggests such a person either: (1) doesn't really care what people think, and just wants their desired outcome, which ultimately is inflicted through force (sounds kinda "repugniKKKlan", doesn't it?), or (2) doesn't *truly* care about the idea about which so much noise is being made; the noise is the point.
I won't declare which of these you are coming across as, nor will I not address how I disagree with your manner of conveyance; after all, "Ppl need 2 come 2 the right judgment on their own. I dont want 2 placate them."
I originally thought that the Tennessee GOP had some there there, and indeed they did, the Dem representatives certainly deserved a letter of reprimand. Being on the correct side of this fight doesn’t make them immune from the body’s rules and decorum. But the TN GOP reps must be drunk on their own power and believe there will be no consequences for that level of overreach. (And yeah, I couldn’t help but notice the two expelled happened to be black.)
There has to be consequences to these types of actions, doesn’t there?
Except that apparently there were no consequences for the representative accused of child sexual molestation (and is heard on a phone call apologizing to one of his victims). None for the one who peed on a Dem's office chair. None for the one convicted of domestic assault.
But sure, there should be consequences for speaking out against child murder.
In legislatures the world over, the usual punishment for violating decorum is censure. Expulsion is usually for getting convicted of a crime or other serious misconduct.
Part of this story is missing. According to a state Senator, who was previously a representative and, is also a black woman, for YEARS this rebublican majority has not ALLOWED debate from the minority party. They cut off their mikes, use rules to jam through legislation without allowing for fact finding sub committees to do the necessary expert and study process that has been done for decades. They kill minority party bills WITHOUT DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!!
Puts what these Tennessee 3 in a different light in my humble opinion. It put's these condescending republican words in a different light. One of these young black men, during their "trial" yesterday, was lectured about introducing bills to get them passed but what has been going on is the republicans kill them WITH NO DEBATE.
They have been silencing the minority party for years with 'decorum' and 'house rules' as a bludgeon, as way to shut them up.
Also, these republicans didn't follow due process as usually one is referred to an ethics committee and a process is followed to do fact finding and the member is allowed to mount a defense. These two young black men did NOT get a chance to get a rigorous defense. It's disgusting and typical of the KKK south. Object lesson in critical race theory for ALL TO SEE.
Especially as the third rep herself pointed out she, a 60 year old white woman, didn’t get expelled for the same offense during the same vote. The forced birth GQP only expelled the young black men.
We must remember the protests came in the wake of the murder of six people, including three nine-year-olds. When passions are running so high, it's obscene to inflict such a severe punishment. There may be no direct consequences for the representatives who did this, but the story is terrible nationally for the Republican Party. So there may be consequences for these representatives in the larger sense that the goals of the Republican Party may be thwarted.
I actually had been thinking of a trip to Nashville for a couple of reasons.
I will not go anywhere near TN now, nor FL, nor TX for that matter. I just do not want to subject myself to the horror that is Republicanland lawlessness and disorder.
From your lips . . .
Oof, easy there, Hoss- I felt all Gateway for a minute.
Addressing people in this manner is not the most effective way to win hearts and minds.
It's not that I thought that was your goal (in fact, reading many more of your comments has convinced me that it's not), but I aspire to give the benefit of the doubt.
The way I see it, if one *truly* cares about an idea, one would seek to change hearts and minds in support of one's idea. To not do so, to me, suggests such a person either: (1) doesn't really care what people think, and just wants their desired outcome, which ultimately is inflicted through force (sounds kinda "repugniKKKlan", doesn't it?), or (2) doesn't *truly* care about the idea about which so much noise is being made; the noise is the point.
I won't declare which of these you are coming across as, nor will I not address how I disagree with your manner of conveyance; after all, "Ppl need 2 come 2 the right judgment on their own. I dont want 2 placate them."