The movie made Bill Clinton the face of "the patriarchy" and the Republican complaint is "hey, you should have made the even more sexually-predatory president the face of the patriarchy!"
Ugh. This. This. This.
Just for having to type this sentence, I think women deserve more Greta Gerwig movies, a Wonder Woman sequel on par with the quality of the 2017 movie, and a Josephine Baker biopic.
I'm not embarrassed to say: I thought it was a better WWI movie than the latest adaptation of All Quiet on The Western Front. Chris Pine's final moment's immediately made me think back to the book: "his face had an expression of calm, as though almost glad the end had come." Absolutely Brutal.
Watching Diana's opinion of her fellow travelers change when she saw them helping the Belgian villagers was so good. A lesser movie would have skipped that sort of character development.
I thought the recent version of Alls Quiet was a great Great War movie. (Sorry, couldn't resist that phrasing. :)) However, it wasn't Alls Quiet. Too many key scenes from the book (or the amazing 1930 version) were missing. I liked it movie, but it wasn't Alls Quiet.
I think Heinlein would have been disappointed that the movie portrayed the government he envisioned as fascist. Seemed to me that he took great pains in the book to make sure it wasn't a fascist government, or even a military government.
Ludendorff at an early stage played footsie with the Nazis and paralleled them in some ways, although as a Nationalist. He was abhorrently antisemitic, and Gadot taking him down has some important figurative justice. But, his leadership during war was historically more significant than what he did afterwards. Politically, he was needed to appease Hindenburg while the old man lived, and even though a rival, he wasn't offed by the Nazis for "reasons" (mostly to not alienate Nationalist veterans). He's an optional lecture slide on how that Nazis came to power.
It was great, and I hope Gerwig gets more big movies because in addition to being a great director she obviously knows how to manage the massive budgets that come with them.
It's very funny to me that all the usual conservative cosplayers of masculinity - Shapiro, Walsh, etc., are melting down about a movie that is basically a giant masculinity cosplay.
The funniest thing to me what Matt Gaetz's wife (cursed phrase) Ginger complaining that Ken is a "low T" man. No, Ginger, he's no T man, as in he's a plastic doll, he has no testosterone whatsoever. The highest T main character is probably Will Ferrell's character, who is north of 50.
I love how the movie called people out for sexualizing girls' playthings. And the response for the Gaetz household is... to further sexualize children's playthings. From the party that loves to call everyone and everything "groomers".
One thing I realize as I get older is that sexually deviant behavior is much less adults consuming pornography or having too many sex partners and more "I need to find sexuality in places they are clearly not intended."
Like kid's dolls. It's fitting that Gaetz's wife is creepy in a complimentary way to him. We'll all enjoy reading the divorce stories in a decade I'm sure.
One of the other things I've learned getting older is that often there's no hero or villain in a lot of dysfunctional relationships. Both sides are offenders, though often not equal.
Distinguishing that from abusive relationships, of course.
Gaetz was engaged to be married when the story about Onlyfans, underage prostitutes, etc. broke. She saw no problem going ahead and marrying the sleezeball.
Me too. She was a cabaret singer and spent WWII spying on the goddamn Nazi for the resistance. The fact that no one has made a movie about her boggles the mind.
"The fact that no one has made a movie about her boggles the mind."
If anyone makes a movie about her, I hope it's the French. They just gave her a hero's burial in the Pantheon in Paris. Americans hardly know who she is -- and she was American, for heaven's sake. (As if helping defeat the Nazis wasn't enough, if memory serves correctly, she also adopted and raised 10 or 12 orphaned kids while she was at it.)
I actually thought of you while reading an interview with the Greta Gerwig.
She was asked to cut a pivotal emotional scene from the movie because it didn't "move the plot forward" and she pointed out that if she removed the scene from the movie, then the movie wasn't "about anything" anymore. I can't imagine having conversations that maddening.
They're just mad that the American President featured in the movie is Bill Clinton, not Trump. Clear evidence of liberal bias!
The movie made Bill Clinton the face of "the patriarchy" and the Republican complaint is "hey, you should have made the even more sexually-predatory president the face of the patriarchy!"
Ugh. This. This. This.
Just for having to type this sentence, I think women deserve more Greta Gerwig movies, a Wonder Woman sequel on par with the quality of the 2017 movie, and a Josephine Baker biopic.
That first Wonder Wonder movie was one of the best superhero movies ever!
I'm not embarrassed to say: I thought it was a better WWI movie than the latest adaptation of All Quiet on The Western Front. Chris Pine's final moment's immediately made me think back to the book: "his face had an expression of calm, as though almost glad the end had come." Absolutely Brutal.
Watching Diana's opinion of her fellow travelers change when she saw them helping the Belgian villagers was so good. A lesser movie would have skipped that sort of character development.
I thought the recent version of Alls Quiet was a great Great War movie. (Sorry, couldn't resist that phrasing. :)) However, it wasn't Alls Quiet. Too many key scenes from the book (or the amazing 1930 version) were missing. I liked it movie, but it wasn't Alls Quiet.
Yeah, my husband really liked it and I was just like "this isn't the book, this isn't what the book is about"
Which calls to mind Starship Troopers, which I think someone (you perhaps?) referenced yesterday.
Starship Troopers was SO far way from the book I would have been embarrassed to claim I based it on the book if I was the writer.
It had it's moments though, despite the cheesiness.
And I always thought that the Forever War (Joe Haldeman) was a better book.
I really enjoyed both of them.
I think Heinlein would have been disappointed that the movie portrayed the government he envisioned as fascist. Seemed to me that he took great pains in the book to make sure it wasn't a fascist government, or even a military government.
I both wish that it had been made and yet am somewhat afraid of it being made, lol.
Can you imagine the uproar today if you included the part about the changing sexual mores through the centuries?
Or the fact that humanity ends up a bunch of clones and more like the Taurans than the humanity of the past?
Yes!
Agree, yes. Until Ludendorff turns into a monster. That didn't happen until the 20s, after the war.
Using such a prominent historical figure was risky. A loose analog with a similar name would have worked better.
Ludendorff at an early stage played footsie with the Nazis and paralleled them in some ways, although as a Nationalist. He was abhorrently antisemitic, and Gadot taking him down has some important figurative justice. But, his leadership during war was historically more significant than what he did afterwards. Politically, he was needed to appease Hindenburg while the old man lived, and even though a rival, he wasn't offed by the Nazis for "reasons" (mostly to not alienate Nationalist veterans). He's an optional lecture slide on how that Nazis came to power.
I appreciate the additional historical context, but it just strengthens my opinion that Ludendorf didn't belong in a superhero movie. :)
It was great, and I hope Gerwig gets more big movies because in addition to being a great director she obviously knows how to manage the massive budgets that come with them.
It's very funny to me that all the usual conservative cosplayers of masculinity - Shapiro, Walsh, etc., are melting down about a movie that is basically a giant masculinity cosplay.
The funniest thing to me what Matt Gaetz's wife (cursed phrase) Ginger complaining that Ken is a "low T" man. No, Ginger, he's no T man, as in he's a plastic doll, he has no testosterone whatsoever. The highest T main character is probably Will Ferrell's character, who is north of 50.
I love how the movie called people out for sexualizing girls' playthings. And the response for the Gaetz household is... to further sexualize children's playthings. From the party that loves to call everyone and everything "groomers".
Not to mention that we all know that neither Ken NOR Barbie ever had actual genitalia. That makes them both transgenders, right?
Eunichs for the cause.
Sorry eunuch
One thing I realize as I get older is that sexually deviant behavior is much less adults consuming pornography or having too many sex partners and more "I need to find sexuality in places they are clearly not intended."
Like kid's dolls. It's fitting that Gaetz's wife is creepy in a complimentary way to him. We'll all enjoy reading the divorce stories in a decade I'm sure.
Have you ever noticed that we never see Gaetz and Butthead in a room at the same time? The giant forehead is a giveaway.
I've never seen Trump and the Great Pumpkin in the same room at the same time either.
Nor Kevin McCarthy and the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz.
You are right!
One of the other things I've learned getting older is that often there's no hero or villain in a lot of dysfunctional relationships. Both sides are offenders, though often not equal.
Distinguishing that from abusive relationships, of course.
Gaetz was engaged to be married when the story about Onlyfans, underage prostitutes, etc. broke. She saw no problem going ahead and marrying the sleezeball.
I'd love to see a movie about Josephine Baker. Just for the style/costumes/dress alone!
HBO did a decent biopic in the early 90s I think.
Me too. She was a cabaret singer and spent WWII spying on the goddamn Nazi for the resistance. The fact that no one has made a movie about her boggles the mind.
"The fact that no one has made a movie about her boggles the mind."
If anyone makes a movie about her, I hope it's the French. They just gave her a hero's burial in the Pantheon in Paris. Americans hardly know who she is -- and she was American, for heaven's sake. (As if helping defeat the Nazis wasn't enough, if memory serves correctly, she also adopted and raised 10 or 12 orphaned kids while she was at it.)
I actually thought of you while reading an interview with the Greta Gerwig.
She was asked to cut a pivotal emotional scene from the movie because it didn't "move the plot forward" and she pointed out that if she removed the scene from the movie, then the movie wasn't "about anything" anymore. I can't imagine having conversations that maddening.
Excellent!