Sarah and JVL talk about the Fox “debate” between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom and also Robert Kagan’s cri de coeur about the coming danger to democracy.
You can read the Kagan piece here.
The Secret Podcast
The Doorstep of Crisis
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The Doorstep of Crisis
Also: DeSantis vs. Newsom.
The Secret Podcast
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Each Friday, best friends Sarah Longwell and JVL go off-leash and uncensored in this intimate podcast.
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Each Friday, best friends Sarah Longwell and JVL go off-leash and uncensored in this intimate podcast.
Only for Bulwark+ members. 
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Jonathan V. Last
