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Ron and Nikki

The no-shot and the long-shot.
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Guess which is which! (Melina Mara/The Washington Post via Getty Images)

Sarah and JVL talk about what Nikki Haley needs Ron DeSantis to do in order for her to get a legitimate shot at Trump. (Hint: Tiny D can’t drop out before Iowa.) And then they do a deep-dive into Sam Bankman-Fried and the FTX fraud.

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