The Chief Nemesis To Donald Trump. With Guest Susan Page

How did this week reveal who will assume the mantle of leader in the struggle against Donald Trump? Michael and Susan Page discuss the debate, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Bush, and the passing of Elijah Cummings. Susan Page is the Washington Bureau chief of USA Today. She's covered 10 presidential campaigns and six White House administrations, and she's interviewed the past nine presidents She’s the author of "The Matriarch: Barbara Bush & the Making of an American Dynasty" and the upcoming "Madam Speaker: Nancy Pelosi & the Arc of Power."