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The Head vs the Heart in Big Ten Country (with Tim Alberta)
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The Head vs the Heart in Big Ten Country (with Tim Alberta)

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The Atlantic’s Tim Alberta joins Sarah to discuss whether Ohio is really more Trump+8 than R+8 — and to debate Tim Ryan's chances against J.D. Vance. Meanwhile, in Michigan's governor's race, Gretchen Whitmer hits Tudor Dixon on her biggest vulnerability — abortion — while facing lingering resentment over her Covid response.

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