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A Difficult 'Friendship'
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A Difficult 'Friendship'

Plus: RIP, Max. (Who?) Welcome back, HBO Max. (Ohhhh.)
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‘Friendship’ (MovieStillsDB)

On this week’s episode, Sonny Bunch (The Bulwark), Alyssa Rosenberg (The Washington Post), and Peter Suderman (Reason) say goodbye to Max and take a mild victory lap in the process. Then they review Friendship, the new cringe comedy from Tim Robinson and A24. Is it the feel-bad movie of the year or just a feel-bad movie? Make sure to swing by Bulwark+ for our summer preview episode on Friday. And if you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend!

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Juan Ortega's avatar

I viewed it as kind of a horror movie. Similar (this is a stretch, maybe) to Alex Garland's Men. Which is another one where you can say "obviously, not all men are like that", but it is a commentary on a specific kind of guy and a sort of guy that these movies argue are within everyone that's socialized as a man.

Supposedly the home release will have an extended garage scene with Connor, which I am looking forward to as an ITYSL/Detroiters acolyte.

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Allyn Harvey's avatar

It was much more than just a name change. HBO programming was obscured once WBD took it over and created MAX. I couldn't find the Warner Bros. cartoons or the Turner network oldies that came with my pre-merger subscription. New HBO programming subsided to the point where there was nothing to watch. I was both a stock holder and a subscriber. Eventually I sold the stock (at a loss) and cancelled my subscription.

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PK's avatar
May 20Edited

I definitely agree with Alyssa about the premise of 'Friendship' and similarly of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm'. The title 'Friendship' is already problematic for me because I have never had such a friend as "Austin" who would behave in that unpredictable and unnerving way, and would never stay friends with such a person.

There is far more going on in that movie that I would call emotional manipulation and mental dysfunction than, say, liberating journey of self-discovery by new-found soul brothers.

Same with 'Curb', although I am a fan of Larry David. He was asked once (and probably more than once) if he is like the character he plays in 'Curb'. He answered with what I thought was a well-adjusted response that he is not like that character because he himself is not a sociopath.

And that is really the point for me. The word Sociopathy would be a far more accurate title for 'Friendship'. Maybe it's the prevalence of sociopaths in today's politics and in the new media age generally -- especially and definingly in right-wing media and social media channels -- that somehow "Austin" can now fit right into our normal/normy mind-space and not be quite recognized as the disturbing aberration that he really is.

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Jeff Biss's avatar

We watch too much "TV" and there's also that there's far too many shows being produced (https://www.nielsen.com/insights/2022/state-of-play/). For me, Netflix provides a wide variety and other outlets' shows are provided on Netflix, such as AMC's "The Terror" that I found very well made, the details were "Master and Commander" level, so the pull to spend more money on other outlets isn't enough. There is already a huge number of shows that I already don't watch because I don't find their thumbnail compelling enough.

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Thomas Emerick's avatar

There’s a new marvel out that’s supposed to be nuts

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Sharon King's avatar

I happen to agree with Alyssa on shows like this. Sometimes you aren’t the intended audience. At the same time, I find it annoying that I can’t enjoy whatever “this type of movie” is. For me, it’s slapstick comedy.

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Sonny Bunch's avatar

tbf this is me with musicals

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Kelly Hughes's avatar

Thanks Alyssa. I’m a man and I know it’s very hard for us to understand what it’s like moving through the world as a woman. Thank you for your openness and candid assessment. And of course, this is going to affect your viewing experience so much if there is a real life thing you can’t stop thinking about when this person is on screen.

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Kathy's avatar

Lord help us

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Clay Banes's avatar

Cannes, schmannes. 😉

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Sonny Bunch's avatar

If someone wants to sponsor an ATMA trip to Cannes, I’m all for it!

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Clay Banes's avatar

I’ll put something in the kitty!

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