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hey everybody big double header show today i know it's convention week but i've been totally remiss in covering what's been going on in ukraine and their inclusion into russia so we've got michael weiss in segment two with a very informative update on that stick around for that up first bill crystal and all week make sure
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you're checking us out on youtube because we'll have additional bonus content over there we just hit half a million subscribers on youtube so we appreciate you all for listening and watching. And we'll be just giving you unlimited coconut content this week from Chicago. Up next, your friend of mine, Bill Kristol. Hello and welcome to The Bullard Podcast.
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I'm your host, Tim Miller. It's Monday, August 19th. The political world is headed back to Chicago, the host of more nominating conventions than any other city in America, most famously that conflagration of 1968. To discuss it, Bill Kristol, who is already middle-aged in 1968, editor-in-large of The Bullard, co-author of Morning Shot's newsletter. How are you doing, Bill?

Kamala's first month as a presidential candidate before the Democratic convention has gone exceedingly well—she's been controlling the narrative, infuriating people like Ben Shapiro, and Trump can't get her pretty face out of his head. Meanwhile, Putin talks a big game, but Ukraine has surprised everyone with its incursion into Russia. Bill Kristol and Michael Weiss join Tim Miller.

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Maureen Ogle's avatar

Tim: for what it’s worth, KH’s friendship with Barack goes way back. Way back.

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Andy K's avatar

I loved Mona's article on Walz. I thought she'd be the last one to talk so highly of Walz, given some of his progressive leanings, but I'm all here for it.

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Migs's avatar

Great podcast Tim. The michael Weiss’ portion was interesting. I just find people like michael mean well but have no idea how politics will and have affected Ukraine. Let’s just assume that Kamala wins and republicans take the senate (Tim’s take). Michael, the amount of money that is going to flow to Ukraine is going to between 1b-10b a year. I would say less than Israel which is less than 5b. Ukraine will have to make a deal and no, no one in the west is going to sign a security guarantee with Ukraine. It’s just not in the cards. Americans support Ukraine but they are not going to fight for them.

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Jill Z's avatar

Bill - you don't WIN the Medal of Honor.

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Gus Costantino's avatar

It was brutal to listen to what they’ve done to alanis’ beautiful song…… I’ll never be the same.

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Danielle NJ's avatar

Great guest! Hope you do have him back.

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Sandy's avatar

There is also a very large South Asian population in NC

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Different drummer's avatar

Awesome update by Michael; please continue to have him on. You do such a great job of having interesting guests, Tim!

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Dave Yell's avatar

Since the convention is about moving forward, I would have liked to see Whitmer, Shapito and other governors who comprise the future of the party. But as Bill said, it is more about how Kamala does in her speech and defining herself.

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Different drummer's avatar

Bill: "You know what's great about being a liberal these days? It's a free country. People can like whatever they want." My favorite comment on a Bulwark pod EVER!

Second fav - JVL last week: "I love watching bad things happen to bad people" (or something very close). LOVE 'em both!

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Dave Yell's avatar

Here is a tell; when someone begins a conversation by saying this may sound racist, they are racist.

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Tai's avatar

Okay guys, mayonnaise is one of the great invention in civilization.

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Katinka's avatar

Found the conversation with Michael Weiss really clarifying, there is so much information about the Ukraine war out there, for me, it can get a little bit overwhelming/confusing (esp with the election info overtaking everything) Please have Michael on again

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Laura Donna's avatar

Yes, please have him on again.

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Walter Chuck's avatar

Being from the Midwest maybe Walz could get Kamala to try a lutefisk taco?

Hopefully Kamala can recommend some good places to have tacos in the SF Bay Area for him to try?

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Dave Yell's avatar

Ya betch ya.

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John P's avatar

Oh man, skip the tacos and go for Burritos. Chipotle’s “mission style burritos” exist because of SF’s Mission neighborhood :)

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Walter Chuck's avatar

SF native, I preferred El Faro's over La Taqueria. La Cumbre carne asada was really good but got really popular when Rolling Stone did a write up on them. I try to grab one of the three when I go back to visit, still good but not the same as when I lived there.

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Don Wilson's avatar

YES!!! BILL'S A MAYO HATER!!!!

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Manon Banta's avatar

I love that you are such a big fan of LSU, more than I am and I graduated from there, lol.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

Bill, when the first black president steps up to stump for the person who will be the first black woman president, that’s as forward-looking as you can get.

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Laura Donna's avatar

What an amazing treat to get the update on Ukraine's recent move! I had no idea that the territory seized (1,200 square kilometers) was greater than what Russia has taken, destruction of three bridges. So good. Also loved hearing that they are doing it with such conviction and style in terms of interactions (interviews with Russian civilians flipping the script), levels of discombobulation and chaos on the Russian side, improved Ukrainian morale. Such a great report. Thank you so much.

In and around Tim Snyder's United 24 fundraisers for drones (completed and raising $2,347,900 to protect eight regions of Ukraine), and launched yesterday, another one for demining https://u24.gov.ua/safeterrain?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=robots Wait, Wait, that's just the lead in to what I want to share...

So in and around these announcements on Tim's Substack, a guy commented that Ukraine needs retired F-16 pilots. So any friends of the Bulwark or Bulwark people with friends who might know someone who might know someone who is a bored fighter pilot please get in touch. . https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/ukraine-looking-for-retired-f-16-pilots/

If you seriously find someone, and they don't know who to call, let me know and I will figure it out:) Nothing if not stubborn.

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Rajeev's avatar

At this point Donald Trump looks 1000 times worse than James Carville

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZUhiIHUfLc

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Jan's avatar

But Trump does think he is handsome and great-looking. He's said that when he looks in the mirror, he looks 35. It's part of his narcissism. BTW I just love the light touch and humor that Harris/Walz is using. It seems, so far, that it's exactly what the majority of Americans have been pining for. Like in 2020, the majority just wanted a rest and to not have to think about the President every day, and that's what Biden offered.

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Dave Yell's avatar

Mocking Trumpster is what works best against a total narcissist. Poke the bear. He will respond which is what we want

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Denis M.'s avatar

On white guy tacos...I dated a black woman in college. She came to my apartment to cook dinner together one evening. The next time she came over she brought a bag of spices and seasonings. She described my cooking as "like white rice but not as spicy".... LOL I learned.

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Ray Ferron's avatar

The dreaming man in Democratic politics? Newsome?

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Frisco's avatar

I thought he said dreamy and was thinking Beshear … but hey, maybe that’s just me.

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Christopher Wood's avatar

BTW = Always sweet when Right-Wing media rise to reality:

Forbes Magazine headline:

"Trump Shared Fake Taylor Swift ‘Endorsement’—It Won’t End Well"

Former President Donald Trump took to social media over the weekend to welcome the endorsement from pop superstar Taylor Swift with an uncharacteristically short post, stating simply, "I accept!"

Trump's acceptance of her endorsement came a bit too early, of course, as Taylor Swift didn't really offer her support for the former president. As of now, she hasn't made any endorsements, although Swift famously supported President Joe Biden in 2020.

"Welcome to the increasingly surreal world, where we can't always believe what we are seeing," said Scott Steinberg, author of Think Like a Futurist. "Deep fake videos and AI-generated images becoming a part of the new normal and are then amplified on social media."

Trump may have expected that his post could help him gain traction with non-political followers of Swift's, but it is likely to backfire this time.

"Trump has shown himself as someone who believes no press is bad press, and he has shown an ability to use social media to share his message," added Steinberg. "Trump is used to the echo chamber that serves to amplify his posts. But this time he may be proven wrong."

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Jen Little's avatar

Have any of these people been to Minnesota? Been here 20 years and servers still don’t believe us that we really would like Thai hot, not Minnesota (not) hot.

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Patrick Rutledge's avatar

The song was about an Ottawa Senator hockey player that she dated.

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Christopher Wood's avatar

Shapiro obviously doesn't eat Tuna and Mayo. These days, "white-guy tacos" can have herbs and spices!

What a self-important douche.

BTW - While I am a Hellman's Mayo guy (my wife likes Dukes), the best mayo I ever had was in a restaurant at the "Circuit Zandvoort," the Netherlands home of the Formula 1 Grand Prix racing.

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Gus Costantino's avatar

Hell yes! Hellman’s or Best Foods as it’s known on the west coast. Best mayo ever!

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Christopher Wood's avatar

Took me awhile after I moved to L.A. from NYC that Best Foods was Hellmann's. Never heard of Duke before moving to Indiana. It's more of a Southern/Midwest brand.

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Walter Chuck's avatar

I had some pretty good mayo with the fries I bought at Spa-Francochamps home or of the Belgian Grand Prix. The sound of the NA V-10s screaming through the Ardennes was spectacular.

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Tai's avatar

Chips and mayo are divine. And the frites they sell in Belgium and the Netherlands with mayonnaise Frites sauce are out of this world.

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jazzbeaux's avatar

Please, Please, PLEASE, PUH-LEEZE…Ms. Taylor Swift, just one song about the Republican nominee. Thanks!

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Esther B's avatar

I’m gonna have to play those first three minutes over and over again. Can’t stop laughing. I needed that. 💜

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Bethany Prince's avatar

Re Harris and Obama

According to the Pod Boys Harris (and her sister) were very early supporters and volunteers.

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Niki Purdy's avatar

Defending white people's flavor pallet with historical European imperialism is a wild move

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Ray Ferron's avatar

The Fox poll numbers that came out this morning were really more than 3% with likely voters. 51-45 is showing big mo.

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Bethany Prince's avatar

In fairness, I don't think Tim Walz likes white guy tacos he likes Scandinavian descent Midwestern tacos.

Pretty sure there were a few of my Midwestern friends in college who thought Ketchup was spicy. ( They explained that at least in there households there was the old wives tales that the only reason to use spice was to cover up meat that is going bad.)

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DanceThisMessAround's avatar

The right does not know how to have fun....sad.

In the meantime, I will demonstrate my patriotism and buy some mayo plus a jalapeño. ;)

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Ken Herro's avatar

In Oconomowoc, Wisconsin, the Mexican taco truck operators use different ingredients for chicken tacos depending on the customer.

American chicken taco: Chicken, cheese, tomatoes on a flour tortilla. White man eats this!

Mexican chicken taco: Chicken, cilantro, onions, on a corn tortilla.

Walz knows what the rest of us know here in the midwest, their are "white people tacos" and the authentic tacos, and everyone jokes about it when ordering!

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Jesse K's avatar

Dude I think Bill Kristol was like 15 during the DNC in 1968. How is that middle age. Is Tim just bad at math or was he making a joke.

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Dave Yell's avatar

A little sarcasm

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Ray Ferron's avatar

It's a joke. He does it to Bill often. I like that Bill goes along.

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Dave Yell's avatar

Bill has always been self deprecating, a really great quality.

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Darryll Dennis's avatar

Right-wing media pundits are upset at the "spiceless White people" jokes??? Let me give y'all a sample or two of the jokes openly told in my presence, while I was in the United States Navy, no less:

"Hey, y'all! Let's go out, get drunk, and kill some n***** babies!" "How do you babysit a n***** baby? Wet his lips and stick him to the wall."

Yeah, right-wing White dudes really have a legit gripe to beef about.

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DanceThisMessAround's avatar

I am sorry you had to experience that BS. Thank you for your service from me and my dad (Navy man himself).

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Dave Yell's avatar

Double that salute! Too bad anyone has to experience that.

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Dave Yell's avatar

Start by throwing up

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Frisco's avatar

More like a stomach emptier … between that and the Trump clip 🤮

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I'm your host, Tim Miller. It's Monday, August 19th. The political world is headed back to Chicago, the host of more nominating conventions than any other city in America, most famously that conflagration of 1968. To discuss it, Bill Kristol, who is already middle-aged in 1968, editor-in-large of The Bullard, co-author of Morning Shot's newsletter. How are you doing, Bill?