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Gov. Josh Shapiro: We Can Do Big Things
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Gov. Josh Shapiro: We Can Do Big Things

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The governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, sits down with Tim Miller in Philly to talk about the kind of language that wins over voters, the campus protests, finding the sweet spot on public safety and crime, and getting sh*t done.

show note:
This interview was recorded late Wednesday afternoon.

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