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The Supreme Court Won't Save Us
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The Supreme Court Won't Save Us

And it's not clear that the SCOTUS would want to, even if it could.
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Sarah and JVL spent the entire show talking about yesterday’s presidential immunity arguments before the Supreme Court. Their discussion will shock you: Sarah believes things will ultimately be okay while JVL has a darker view. It’s the twist you never saw coming . . .

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