Tim Miller responds to Stephen Miller’s tweet accusing him of being a leftist for criticizing Trump’s massive tariff hike. He breaks down why the policy makes no sense, who will really pay the price, and calls out Stephen for defending everything Trump does to stay in his good graces.
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Trump and his sycophants don't know how tariffs work.
Americans are already paying more even goods made here and groceries.
Miller aka Gobbell is CRAZY
Stephen is Hitler's Gobbell.
I guess it’s a backhanded compliment that this white supremacist troglodyte noticed you and felt your opinion needed pushback.
From Tombstone/Doc Holliday "A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it." This is Steven Miller. A hatefull feckless bigit.
Not “finger in the wind”, more like “finger up his ass”.🤣
Shit throwing monkey!! Do not insult monkeys Tim! 🤣
LOL shit throwing monkey
The extra 20% added to the 10% is supposedly to pressure China into stopping Fentanyl per Trump.
Stephen Miller is a cowardly bigot.
Miller is a nonsensical moron and a temporary nuisance. Hopefully he will dissolve into the sunset like the end of a bad western.
The Milwaukee paper today had a front page column under the headline "Cuts, office surveillance fueling fear at EPA office."
This is the work of, among others, Russell Vought who said “We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work, because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down … We want to put them in trauma.”
Miller and Vought are fucking ghouls who get their kicks from making other people's lives miserable.
Stephen Miller (Nosferatu) is nothing more than Trumps puppet without any empathy towards immigrants and he should be ashamed and should be ostracized by those of us with common sense and who understand how fascism spreads through cruelty and terror
F steve little eickman!
I admire Tim's straightforward and fearless talk.
Just to be fair Tim, when you say "30% tax on goods from China in exchange for nothing...." What could it possibly be in exchange for? Seriously, China isn't going to trade us something in exchange for taxing their products right? Trump's tax makes sense in only one scenario. WE end up manufacturing a lot more stuff than we do now, and that somehow makes us wealthier, though its hard to see how this outcome is supposed to occur.
Our Miller beats the heck out of their Miller.
If I were cheeky, I'd say it's Miller Time. Even cheekier is cutting through the HS to say this has nothing to do with "re-shoring" manufacturing. But everything to do with extorting from ordinary Americans a quick cash grab to finance giant tax cuts. For people who don't need them because they're already richer than god. This is where cheeky meets snarky- mea culpa.
It was interesting to hear on the Abby Phillip’s CMN program yesterday, or the day before, both Scott Jennings, and Kevin O’Leary matter-of-factly articulating the reality of Trump’s tariffs as being
America’s version of a value added tax. Bingo! Exactly right. And the consumer definitively pays that tax.
Except the underlying structural motivations for a value added tax in the rest of the world leans heavily on the fact that, at least up until now, America has not needed a relatively high value added tax because the taxes collected from the income tax are sufficient for most fiscal needs. Remember, it was the income tax of 1913, which gradually displaced the previous regime of funding the government through tariffs. And clearly, in his economically challenged mind, tariffs can replace the income tax, at least for billionaires.
The 100 years dream of the well to do: get rid of that unholy thing called the income tax. Get back to tariffs. All you have to do to avoid taxes in that form is stop buying things! The 0.5% will like owing no taxes, and they can keep buying whatever they need. The 99.5% will have trouble cutting back on food, clothes, goods or any kind of thing they need to live. Trump Tariff taxes are dipping a toe into that body of water. More is planned.
I always thought Ted Cruz was the devil incarnate. But Miller is 100x worse than Cruz. So what does that make Miller???
Keep talking!!! However, you are a liberal -- conservatism has yet to reinvent itself...
There are tens of thousands of veterans like myself who are ready to join the DOD (Defenders of Democracy) and remove Miller and his ilk including the tyrant-in-chief if it becomes necessary to do so to preserve our freedom and democracy.
Git em boy! Proud of you!
I sure hope more of us are seeing the truth about this disgusting administration!
I see a whole cage-full of shit-throwing apes. They are all terrified of logic, reason, and the truth. Keep tellin' it, Tim!
Don't have to "relocate" any factories, Stephen, they're already there.
Justifying the bizarre and frankly ignorant blanket tariffs with the logic of onshoring is about as stupid as it gets. If this were the actual case would they not have stood behind the chips act as it was?! They are so full of it, there is a way to onshore, and a right here and now blanket country wide taxes are not it! If it has to be tariffs / taxes, propose a tax 5 or so years out, and only on targeted products that make sense, allowing for time to actually onshore.
Possibly offer incentives to onshore, penalize corporations in years future if they do not meet a quota of onshore to offshore production. Anything is better, so don't let them tell us blanket tariffs are for the common good. BS!
And yes, stephen miller really adds sychness to sychophant.
If he sends you to El Salvador I’ll get Prime Minister Mark Carney to go get you.
I’ve never watched a reality show…but word is we are living in one. Now, how do we cancel it?
I suppose this is what the Republicans call “owning the libs.” What is so clearly obvious from a psychological point of view is what can be seen in sociopaths who are unleashed. They are drunk on the continual supply of power operating solely on adrenaline without reason or logic. They are dangerous and unreachable.
You go, Tim. Your work is great and true and real. Thank you for standing up for truth.
Pee Wee German is nothing more than a dime store propagandist. He is vile on every level with his obvious gaslighting. His immigration policies are disgusting and inhumane and the harebrained trade policies are stupid. Is this what the people voted for?
Go Tim!!
Factories are in Asia so Billionaires have more money in their pockets. So funny Stephen is trying to convince us otherwise.
Remember Tim.
From where Miller stands on the right, you are to the left of him. So, technically, he is not wrong. 😉🤦♂️🤣😂
The tariffs de-incentivize the very corporations who would build “said” factories in the U.S. Do they think it’s in their businesses’ best interest to invest in construction with materials 30% higher? What screwball logic! At that rate, bringing manufacturing back home will take forever, if happen at all.
And Howard Lutnick can go produce and insert those teeehny tihhnny screws on tech devices himself, alongside the robots that will steal his job.
It’s a Dinosaur Derby, y’all.
Tim- love ya- pronouncing the devil’s last- think of Go- bull.
The Bulwark seems to be generating a bit of executive attention lately. I guess that means you're having an impact out there. Well done. More power to you!!!!
Go Tim! Welcome to the other side. You did live on the left coast in the Bay Area, the home of those "libs". I am one!
Stephen Miller, the man with spray on hair and a child abuser is a fucking Nazi propagandist wanna be. here is some his finest with jake tapper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU7v5A5P8BM
if I recall correctly, American businesses moved to Asia so they could make shit cheap and then sell at a premium in the US>>> Apple, et al
Raise your hand if you’re on the wrong side of Stephen Miller. 🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️
Love you Tim, but it really says something that these dorks don’t have more important things to do than get into a Xitter war with you. Please keep trolling him so he’s too distracted to remember his intent to suspend habeas.
OMG I totally love the Gollum henchman reference
You go, Tim!!!
Keep making them crazy Tim. You rock!
Temu Goebbels is on the left with that response, left field
Poor people buy more Chinese stuff, bkz they can't afford the high-end stuff from other places. This is a poor tax.
Congratulations, Tim. Stephen Miller feeling compelled to respond to your social media post reflects on his weaknesses. And the content of his response is basic MAGA boilerplate - there's nothing interesting about it other than he felt the need to respond to you. That tells me a lot about Tim and The Bulwark as a group being on the administration's radar. I applaud your success. Keep up the good work!
"Being on the wrong side of Stephen Miller means that I am on the right side of things" is probably the most accurate statement ever spoken. Stephen Miller is one of the most despicable human beings to walk the earth. Every time I hear him speak I cringe.
No cringing here. It powers up my antifascist battery. It’s at 130%.
Poor Stephen Miller, he might have been dropped when he was a baby
Yeah, by Dr. Frankenstein!
Pee wee German
I can think of no better tenet to live by than “always seek to be on the opposite side of Stephen Miller”
After Trump saved the "White Farmers" from South Africa from certain Helter Skelter he called the media "you people"
In real world terms, a $150 buck stroller would cost $195 bucks, and more in sales tax - in NC, that would raise the price with tax from $160.50 to $208.65, a diference of $48.15. To someone on the edge, which doesn't appear anywhere in the modern 'conservative' party - fuck this, they are not conservatives. To MAGA folks, the people to whome $48 bucks would make a difference don't really qualify as people - but that is a lot of people. And the difference is enough gas or enough food to make it till next payday.
Is it just me or does Stephen Miller resemble Roy Cohn more and more?
Nauseating but true.
bingo...you nailed it
Moving manufacturing to Asia has been the Repugs American policy for 3 decades LMAO.
Amazing how now they "give a shit"
Here's a thought... what if Miller is Trump's puppeteer and allowing him to buffoon about while he confines to attempt to project 2025 our country into oblivion?
Good for you Tim! A beautiful oratory on common sense! Steven Miller, whose upbringing from the good life to reality of other people, left him outraged, cruel and susceptible to Nazi propaganda. He need to search his soul if he still has one.
The real story is Stephen Miller's mealy mouth-ed lies and propsganda and the Trump media machine. Tim's last statement is the most important one: Tim does not even need to explain the rational point of view about our economic relationship with China. Stephen Miller's X post is all Trump's and Stephen Miller's officiating. Another ploy to scare intelligent, caring, knowledgeable people into keeping quiet.
Steven Miller: the man who separated children from their parents & put them in cages during the first administration and now orchestrates the actions of masked, brutal ICE agents grabbing people and shipping them to gulags.
Thanks Tim for saying what so many are thinking...now about those white guys coming in from S.Africa?...Want to take that one on?
Thank you for bringing that up. That story is grossly under reported.
I love you Tim, but if you are "The Left" then we leftists/socialists are in trouble lol.
Honestly Tim, I don’t know how you do all of this and keep sane answers and keep us informed. I appreciate you so very much but now I need to open a bottle of wine.
This is the guy that says he wants to get rid of habeas corpus!!
The Hallmark of our constitution in our democracy .
And this guy wants to just get rid of it.!!
If they get rid of habeas corpus everybody better get comfortable carrying. I assume as a gay socialist college professor in Texas I haven't had habeas corpus since the Obama administration, but I am licensed and always armed because I refuse to be easy prey. The rest of the country is in for a rude awakening.
Don’t let him get in your head Tim !!
Considerate it an honor that he says you went left .
Anything to the left of them is a good thing !
The ability to discern that something is wrong and stand up to it is honorable.
Fabulous response, Tim. Thank you especially for making your opinions about Trump's actions perfectly clear. Way to stand up.
Hey Tim, the Trump National Sales Tax increase will raise the price more than just strollers, electronics and T-shirts. Most compounds, reagents, and chemicals that go into our products come from China. That includes shampoo, cleaning solutions, soap, perfume, deodorants, facial creams, lotions, lubricants, oils, and the list goes on and on and on. All of those products will cost much more because of Trump's tax increase.
Both of these men are fairly intelligent and have read the Constitution, so what's wrong with the guy who considers it a barrier to greatness instead of the source of it?. Who is Stephan Miller because I think he's basically the Chief of Staff in this Administration it's like he's running the agenda and bends all arguments his way around Trump
Why is anyone still on Twitter! Post here and on Bluesky. If you MUST be on Twitter at least just respond , don’t give them content.
Sometimes Tim needs to go to where the other side resides, otherwise he's just preaching to the choir.
Count Stephann the Vampire Lord is the least convincing looking undead person, who is pretending to be a live person, that I have ever seen, or heard of, and my family has been hunting vampires proudly since 1651.
Vampires are almost always assholes. However, there is one vampire dude named “Mike” in Cincinnati, who is pretty cool. He only drinks bad people. Anyway, Count Stephann is the WORST!
I’m astounded to learn that he’s younger than I am. He looks awful for his age. Hate ages you worse than cigarettes.
Yeah, he’s only 39. He looks like dreadful. His repellant personality must be highly corrosive to biological matter.
I bet staring at a gator faced coward in the mirror every morning doesn’t help.
I liked Barnabas Collins 😄
Anne, you and I might be the only ones who remember him!
Negative ladies! I have the complete DVD series. I’m on episode 243. I didn’t yet exist during the original run. I missed the last episode by two months! I caught reruns and the movies though.
Barnabas is cool as a cucumber! Roger is a pretty lousy father. I guess it’s hard to be father of the year when you have a glass of booze every time you walk into the living room. Oh, and poor Maggie Evan’s.
Wait until you get to Quinten!
I can’t believe they did over 1200 episodes.
I can’t wait!
Did you know Buffy?
Hellz yeah. Buffy PHAT!
I read somewhere a couple weeks ago that a conservative group to which Charles Koch belongs and funds is suing the trump administration over the tariff debacle. I wonder how this suit will play out. Otherwise, I like Tim Miller’s assessment of the situation because we all buy myriad items produced in China. It’s next to impossible to avoid consuming goods imported from China. Nobody wants to pay MORE for this stuff. S. Miller is a spook along the lines of Dracula’s slave, Renfield. He is just spinning the shit out of the nonsensical actions/decisions coming from the White House.
There is only one relevant Miller here and it's not Stephen and he knows it
Tim, I'm sorry to say you are wasting your breath. Stephen Miller is all about the troll.
Watch him smile in the North Korean-style cabinet meetings! This Gestapo type administrator is a small, ignorant person who will suffer a Gestapo/Nazi fait!
If history is a lesson, he will see the other end of a rope! (from my lips to God's ears!!) (I keep running the scene in Schindler's List when the Auschwitz Commandant gets hanged by the Russians through my head...here we come, Stephen Miller!)
Oh my, I’m growing faint. “Jeeves, bring the smelling salts. I am overwhelmed with excitement, and I begin to swoon!”
Steven Miller is a fugly moron. He is just the WORST. His face is so punchable.
I agree with your genteel remark.
This is a win. You're getting under the vampire/goblin's grayish green skin. This clown car administration is just a creep show.
Correct me if I’m wrong in my understanding of tariffs but if you put in an order at the 145% rate, that’s what you are paying once the good arrives or if they had purchased goods that were already tariffed? Isn’t the damage for the year done for those that did? The way they are wish washy on their positions I can’t see businesses making any serious decisions on factories given the taxes change what seems like every week.
After watching and reading countless podcasts and newsletters about tariffs, I believe the answer is "not necessarily". Some exporters may absorb some of the cost; some importers may absorb part of the cost; so the consumer may end up paying something less than 145% but hard to determine what that might have been. Particularly since Amazon caved to the administration and backed off their intention of identifying how much of the price of an item was the tariff cost.
Someone is paying though whether it’s obfuscated or not is hard to tell if the price isn’t reflective of reality. Absorption doesn’t mean cost free.
Of course, I did not imply 'absorption' was cost free, just that the cost may be shared. So ultimately one cannot say for certain what percentage of the total tariff is being paid by the end user, or consumer.
Herr Miller can fuck the fuck off
Indeed!!!
His response is fucking satire.
Like his life. Hurting other people might make him feel something for a while, but it doesn’t last long. It doesn’t matter what he does. He will never be like “normal people.” He could harness it for a noble purpose, but he chose to inflict it on the innocent. He’s a menace.
I met a MAGA lady at a seminar on caregiving for dementia patients. I assume she is a caregiver rather than a victim of dementia. Nonetheless, I mentioned the great increase in Chinese imports. She said that "China should be ashamed to pass those costs on to us! They are so rich they should just eat the loss!" Is this the latest Fox News talking point? I retorted that 90% of our prescriptions come from China, when she said she only "buys American". I doubt this. There have been journalists who attempted to only buy American for everything they need. It is an impossibility.
I am going to go with she may be the one with dementia - that would explain a lot.
That is kinder than the other explanation.
How is anyone in the world, let alone anyone in the US, supposed to take this administration seriously. They have shown there's no rhyme or reason to anything they do, from closing important agencies that actually help people to screwing around with the world's financial and trade markets. I hope everyone who voted for these idiots comes to appreciate they've made made us the laughing stock of the entire world.
Excellent response, Tim. And I appreciate your reminder at the end of his inhumane and unconstitutional immigration policies.
We need a 30% tariff to get Trump's MAGA hats manufactured in the US? Is there no other way?
Stephen Gollum-Goebbels doesn't understand the issue bc his favorite imports are CECOT snuff films -- and he gets those for free.
I did a spit take at pronouncing Goebbels as "gobbles" like a turkey gobbles. Which just makes it funny. And you know how they hate being made fun of.
Yeah, that puke would never do wet work himself.
Why are you still on Twitter? No judgement, just curious.
Funny to hear Stephen "Joseph Goebbels" Miller call Tim Miller leftist. Hey Tim ... keep attacking and getting under MAGA's skin since it's obvious your messaging is penetrating the right-wing woke extremists media ecosystem.
Go Tim! Welcome to the other side. You did live on the left coast in the Bay Area, the home of those "libs". I am one!
Stephen Miller, the man with spray on hair and a child abuser is a fucking Nazi propagandist wanna be. here is some his finest with jake tapper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU7v5A5P8BM
if I recall correctly, American businesses moved to Asia so they could make shit cheap and then sell at a premium in the US>>> Apple, et al
Nice try Stephen Miller, doing your level best to divert the attention from the truth of Tim Millers assessment. When the truth is being spoken you can bet the right runs scared with lying “leftist” diversions which only works on the cult members. Stephen Miller is the most Anti-American of all Americans using fake ways to suspend habeas corpus among a list of other things. There is no right or left there is only the lying Trump Administration, cult members, and the rest of us. Nice try making it about the left and the right sooooo 20th century. Keep it up Tim!
Tim Miller bringing the eye of the tiger and leaving Stephen Miller in need of tiger balm.
Be careful where you apply it, Stephen... In fact, fuck you and put tiger balm on you bum....
The Trump way. Creates chaos wrecking ball style, then gloats that he’s the greatest deal maker when he half-a$$ ‘fixes’ what he screwed up.
Beautifully stated retort!
I guess you should feel honored to be on Stephen (racist) Millers radar? He is so disgusting.
So ugly. So disgusted.
He’s a grotesque human being
Tim is a traditional big tent conservative. Stephen Miller is 100% white nationalist, and will do literally anything to stay in Trump's good graces, as long as Trump continues to call all non-whites "criminals and drug dealers".