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Larry Hogan walks back comments he'd support Trump if he was the GOP's 2024 nominee, while Chris Sununu doubles down. Plus, Nikki Haley's narrow path to victory and the hurdles facing the police reform debate.

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This episode of The Next Level was recorded on February 2, 2023.

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The Bulwark
The Next Level
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, breakdown campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds.
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