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Stop Trying To Make Pence Happen, It’s Not Going To Happen
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Stop Trying To Make Pence Happen, It’s Not Going To Happen

Always a VP, never a president.
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Sarah, Tim, and JVL discuss the Pence/Trump feud and Kamala Harris’ odds of becoming president.

Bonus: Watch the gang record this edition.

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Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, breakdown campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds.
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